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  1. #1
    anu kukunin ko? poll nalang..80% personal use, 20% pangkuha ng light hardware items like paints, plastic doors,etc... kaya wagon is a plus factor.

    brand-new choices: (under 1 m na may promo all-in down na less than 150T at di lalaki sa 25T mo. for 5yrs)

    1. grand livina elite 6MT
    2. sx4 crossover (AT lang ito)
    3. focus 1.8L (MT in sedan only, AT hatch)
    4. mazda 3 hatch (mahal na, oldest pa..pero jam-packed ng features)

    eto ok sana kaya lang malaki down
    5. innova E/G
    6. corolla G 6MT

    used car choices:

    1. 96-97 corolla gli (stock/neatly souped-up)
    2. 96-99 spacewagon (local)
    3. 1993-99 lancer ( itlog/pizza body, stock/nicely souped-up)
    4. 99-00 sentra gts/exalta sta
    5. 97-99 liteace
    6. 96-00 vitara/vitara plus
    7. besta/L300/grace

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    #2
    honda jazz kaya?

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    #3
    parang sa usage kailangan ng cargo area.

    kung brand new, grand livina elite

    kung used, space wagon local

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    Dagdag mo sa listahan mo:
    - Toyota Revo diesel
    - Mitsubisi Adventure diesel (2004-present)
    - Isuzu Crosswind (MT please)
    - Hyundai Matrix
    - Suzuki Esteem (good luck sa parts)
    - Chevrolet Optra Wagon (MT)
    - Honda CR-V (first gen)

    My pick: Grand Livina for brand new. Space Wagon sa used

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    Seryoso ka Chevrolet Optra Wagon?

    Grand Livina 6 M/T.

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    Adventure atsaka Crosswind. Wag ka lang ma-aksidente!

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    Quote Originally Posted by myk384 View Post
    Dagdag mo sa listahan mo:
    - Toyota Revo diesel
    - Mitsubisi Adventure diesel (2004-present)
    - Isuzu Crosswind (MT please)
    - Hyundai Matrix
    - Suzuki Esteem (good luck sa parts)
    - Chevrolet Optra Wagon (MT)
    - Honda CR-V (first gen)

    My pick: Grand Livina for brand new. Space Wagon sa used
    Bakit "MT please" lang ang Crosswind?

    May problema ba ang AT niyan?

    13.7K:faint:

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    sa used car market, MT costs more than 400K, kahit 2002 model pa yun at almost 200k sa odo...at models di daw kasing tibay at gas guzzler daw..plus sluggish..

    so far so options ko, i prefer gas more than diesel...reason: maintenance... mahal maintenance costs ng diesel than gas, lalo na newer CRDis...

    hyundai matrix--gas--kasingtakaw ng xtrail ko, pero 1.6L lang....diesel, depende...

    optra, matrix, gen.1 crv..off sa budget...

    esteem wagon, hmm... parts nga prob.


    auvs, i prefer vans nalang..

    sa used car, up to 200T lang budget ko..willing to strech kung di barat ang kukuha ng xtrail...

    sa b-new, madami less than 100T all-in cash out....

    mukhang livina at spacewagon ang choices...

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    Hindi naman siguro worth 200k lang ang X-Trail mo bro, at least naman may 400k and above ka diyan. Kung brand new, Grand Livina 6MT na or kung kaya ng budget suggest ko rin base Carens CRDi 6MT (sa alam ko malalaki binibigay na discount ng Kia di ba?). 2nd hand naman, you may be able to find 1st gen diesel Revo's for 300k pataas.

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    im asking 500T nga...pero kung ok deal na binigay sa akin, lalo na mga ahente ng kotse, why not..i prefer low down, 5 years..then matitirang pera un gagamitin ko..

    1.050M ang base carens 6MT, 21+ monthly...walang promo kasi lowered from 1.150M.

    livina 6MT 88t promo,+OMA (16800 for 5years), +OEM foglight (habol ko is ung original stalk switch= 5-10T).. currently iniikot ung credit app...

    SX4 crossover--nagpasched palang ako ng test drive.

    will i push through sa focus, mazda, how about the new-old model lancer cedia MT/cvt? wala na other choices pa na wagon-style car?

    aminin ko, 1st choice ko livina 6MT, pinaka matipid na sasakyan na na-drive ko... cruising*100kph at only 1500rpm! cruise*80kph, and you're on a line or two above idle speed... less chrome, and unnecessary interior trims and covers. di big deal na walang srs, abs, atleast madali maintain at modify...ung electronic throttle control at power steering lang aalahanin ko...lesser gadgets...power mirror at foglights lang papadag ko...(naku halatang nastrip-down ko na livina!) plus siyempre, mga ricer or nagmamarunong (madami kasi ding ganyan dito) ay nag-bobow-down kapag nakita ung 6TH gear mo! hehehe...

    matagal-tagal pa aantayin ko at yung papel ko ay nag-"bank hopping" hehehe, for the mean time, nilalakad ko as collateral eto xtrail...needing funds fast..

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    Sayang kung hindi mo kinuha ang Carens, the 2.0CRDi engine and 6 speed transmission is definitely worth the money. Pero the Grand Livina shoud make a decent 2nd choice.

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    considered ko ung carens, space at crdi+6mt is a plus against the smaller livina... pero mas lesser compromises ang livina 6mt for me...

    di kasi uso wagons dito... wagons avail lang either german or faux-american(korean infact). a legnum vr4 or corolla bz-touring wagon would be a great option

    shop around pa ako.. nilalakad palang ang credit app,e..

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    Have you considered na ipa-trade in sa Kia ang kotse mo? I hear they give pretty good appraisement deals. That way you can more conveniently slash your new car buying price at mas magaan na ang burden mo sa monthly payments.

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    but why are you selling the xtrail?
    if it is because of fuel expenses, then a diesel replacement will make you happy.
    if you need more cargo space, get a pick up, or a van. in my view, a sedan or a station wagon is still too small..
    i used to have a besta. it was ok. basic transport. minor malfunctions in the trimmings, but replacement parts were so cheap i couldn't really complain too much.

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    * dr.d: ayaw ko din sana, pero its can be an option. as of now, xtrail is morgaged for 180T * 12% for 114 days. while i still wait for a buyer/deal that i cant refuse.

    i need fresh funds to prevent closure of the family business...

    side note: when i acquired my xtrail last sept. 09, i know the responsibility and the "luho" ng sasakyan... i could have opted for either a space gear/ 07 civic FD/09 jazz/09 livina 6MT.... pero siyempre iba parin ang "arrive" mo pag nakita ka naka xtrail.. hehehe.. premium price.

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    i also have the same comment w/ dr. d. if i am the man standing in your shoes bro. always yummy, i would not let go of my xtrail. 180 K lang naman pala ang paka-mortgage mo. think twice dude, ibebenta mo ang xtrail mo for 500 k ba, more or less? fully paid mo na ba sya? if bayad mo na ang xtrail sa dealer, then you will sell it for 500 K to pay your mortgage debt of 180K plus let's say interests of 20 k, sabihin na nating 200-250 K ang babayaran mo sa mortgagee, e magkanong matitira sa yo, 250-300K, tapos gagamitin mo pang-down payment sa brand new car na babayaran mo rin in monthly installment, for 2-5 years? eh, mas malaki yata ang magiging utang mo nyan bro. as compared to 180-250K mortgage debt.

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    as of now, ung nga gross motgage ko a 208,800 pesos * 1800/d for 116 days... 3 months... enough time to wait for the right buyer/dealer. di ko naman bibitawan tong xtrail ng palugi noh, di ako kakagat sa 320-350T offerings ng mga ahente, di ako desperado magkaroon ng bagong sasakyan...pero atleast next year may kapalit na to, bababa nanaman ang value, at loananble amount...and by that time i project na ma-stabilize ng to almost normal ang business...well, mukhang down to livina 6MT nalang.. test driven a brand-new sx4 xover, and more compromises than praises....

    hopefully by that time makakaipon na ulit ako..mga november-dec. na matatapos ako, so madami na ulit promo ang car dealers! (hopefully magpapromo na motorimage). wishful thinking parin ang prius sa akin....

survey lang..para may replacement na ako if mabenta ang xtrail...