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    Hello Sir / Madam,

    I'm non expert when it comes to car comparison. I just need your inputs between the two variants... I know the price difference between the two is somehow big. I'll be needing the MPV as a family vehicle.

    What are the advantages of getting 2.8 G M/T?
    Is maintenance cost for the diesel engine is high compared to gasoline?

    I have not yet visited a dealer to see the difference between the two models. Please share with me your inputs. Your ideas will be a great help for me to make my decision.

    Thanks and more power!

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    Pareho namang diesel ang comparison mo ah? Features lang pinagkaiba ng E sa G. Check mo brochure kung ano difference. Pero ok na ang specs ng E for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    Pareho namang diesel ang comparison mo ah? Features lang pinagkaiba ng E sa G. Check mo brochure kung ano difference. Pero ok na ang specs ng E for me

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    Hi Sir DCT.

    Thank you for the reply. Actually, I'm now trying to download the spec sheet in the net unfortunately naka block dito sa office ang mga related sa transportation site... i need to download it at home for comparison.


    Smartbuddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartbuddy View Post
    Hello Sir / Madam,

    I'm non expert when it comes to car comparison. I just need your inputs between the two variants... I know the price difference between the two is somehow big. I'll be needing the MPV as a family vehicle.

    What are the advantages of getting 2.8 G M/T?
    Is maintenance cost for the diesel engine is high compared to gasoline?

    I have not yet visited a dealer to see the difference between the two models. Please share with me your inputs. Your ideas will be a great help for me to make my decision.

    Thanks and more power!
    the main advantages, to me, of the diesel over the gas variant, are:"
    1. diesel fuel expenses are cheaper than gasoline.
    2. diesel engines hardly need any regular maintenance. i have two previous-gen diesel innovas, with a combined mileage of 150K km. aside from the usual wear and tear, i haven't had to replace anything from the engines yet. the naysayers say diesel engines cost an arm and a leg to repair... well, that may be true, but i haven't needed to repair them, yet.

    i don't know the km/li values of the new engines. you'll have to do the computations.

    why do some buyers prefer gas?
    well, they are really quieter than diesel, and also less vibrations daw.
    and gas engines spew out less air pollution than diesels.
    acceleration? i don't know. racing a big vehicle like an innova, just doesn't seem... right.

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    i just heard the tail-end of the news. diesel fuel is about to increase in price, and overshoot the gasoline's. and car prices are increasing soon...??
    ...have to verify what i heard, but...
    i think i'll buy myself an altis now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i just heard the tail-end of the news. diesel fuel is about to increase in price, and overshoot the gasoline's. and car prices are increasing soon...??
    ...have to verify what i heard, but...
    i think i'll buy myself an altis now...
    I hope dr. D this is not true coz this will be my first time to get a diesel engine vehicle... maybe the car prices will be affected by the additional excise tax being proposed in the congress now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartbuddy View Post
    I hope dr. D this is not true coz this will be my first time to get a diesel engine vehicle... maybe the car prices will be affected by the additional excise tax being proposed in the congress now.
    i woke up, to catch the last statements over the radio news.
    i thought i was having a nightmare, as "it was too bad to be true"... heh heh.
    all these years, the fuel savings kept me to the diesel's side. but now...
    anyway, i've always liked the new altis... MT or AT..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i just heard the tail-end of the news. diesel fuel is about to increase in price, and overshoot the gasoline's. and car prices are increasing soon...??
    ...have to verify what i heard, but...
    i think i'll buy myself an altis now...
    Malabo yata mangyari yan kasi from raw material na crude oil, refineries as their name implies refines crude oil in various stages at di hamak na mas konti ang stages para maging diesel kesa sa proseso para maging gasoline. So mas madaming proseso mas mahal, at mas konti proseso mas mura.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishing View Post
    Malabo yata mangyari yan kasi from raw material na crude oil, refineries as their name implies refines crude oil in various stages at di hamak na mas konti ang stages para maging diesel kesa sa proseso para maging gasoline. So mas madaming proseso mas mahal, at mas konti proseso mas mura.
    Unless they slap ADO with outrageous taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;2826731
    Malabo yata mangyari yan kasi from raw material na crude oil, refineries as their name implies refines crude oil in various stages at di hamak na mas konti ang stages para maging diesel kesa sa proseso para maging gasoline. So mas madaming proseso mas mahal, at mas konti proseso mas mura.
    diesel pump price in the philippines, is not purely a manufacturing decision. it is a political decision.
    years ago, it was intentionally (inamin nila!) priced to sell less than gasoline, because "diesel is the fuel of the masses". in those times, almost all public transport vehicles used diesel, and most private vehicles used gasoline. (guys, guess who "subsidized" the low price of diesel.)
    in other countries, diesel costs about the same as gasoline, or even higher (also political?).
    Last edited by dr. d; May 4th, 2017 at 10:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    the main advantages, to me, of the diesel over the gas variant, are:"
    1. diesel fuel expenses are cheaper than gasoline.
    2. diesel engines hardly need any regular maintenance. i have two previous-gen diesel innovas, with a combined mileage of 150K km. aside from the usual wear and tear, i haven't had to replace anything from the engines yet. the naysayers say diesel engines cost an arm and a leg to repair... well, that may be true, but i haven't needed to repair them, yet.

    i don't know the km/li values of the new engines. you'll have to do the computations.

    why do some buyers prefer gas?
    well, they are really quieter than diesel, and also less vibrations daw.
    and gas engines spew out less air pollution than diesels.
    acceleration? i don't know. racing a big vehicle like an innova, just doesn't seem... right.
    Hi Dr. D,

    Thank you for the nice inputs... appreciate it. Your inputs will be considered in deciding which variant I will get.

    Thanks again.

    Smartbuddy

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    Sirs,

    Maibalik ko lang sa original topic, based on what i read on the specifications between the two the following items below are the differences:

    Meron sa G pero wala sa E
    1. mood light
    2. navi system
    3. auto climate control (front and rear)
    4. combination of fabric orange/brown seats
    5. rear sensors
    6. full steering control
    7. wood panel
    8. electric folding mirrors
    9. chrome door handle
    10. chrome grill accent
    11. paddle lamp (light under the side mirrors)
    12. folding tray behind front seats.
    13. Alarm with immobilizer

    Are these additional specs worth the difference? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartbuddy View Post
    Sirs,

    Maibalik ko lang sa original topic, based on what i read on the specifications between the two the following items below are the differences:

    Meron sa G pero wala sa E
    1. mood light
    2. navi system
    3. auto climate control (front and rear)
    4. combination of fabric orange/brown seats
    5. rear sensors
    6. full steering control
    7. wood panel
    8. electric folding mirrors
    9. chrome door handle
    10. chrome grill accent
    11. paddle lamp (light under the side mirrors)
    12. folding tray behind front seats.
    13. Alarm with immobilizer

    Are these additional specs worth the difference? Thanks
    AFAIK, almost all of the features mentioned can be easily installed as aftermarket add-ons. If you want them, you might even spend less than the price difference between the two variants.

    Personally, I can do without the mood lighting and puddle lamps. HU can be easily replaced with an even better sounding unit and coupled with a backup camera which removes the need for outdated sensors. I might've sprung for the G if it were leather, but I find the orange seats odd-looking. I saw whole full-featured Toyota steering wheels for sale in the Facebook site of a shop in Araneta, so even that can be installed aftermarket. Same can be said for the chrome inserts, power folding mirrors (though most likely a bit expensive) and alarm.

    Needless to say, I'd go for the E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    AFAIK, almost all of the features mentioned can be easily installed as aftermarket add-ons. If you want them, you might even spend less than the price difference between the two variants.

    Personally, I can do without the mood lighting and puddle lamps. HU can be easily replaced with an even better sounding unit and coupled with a backup camera which removes the need for outdated sensors. I might've sprung for the G if it were leather, but I find the orange seats odd-looking. I saw whole full-featured Toyota steering wheels for sale in the Facebook site of a shop in Araneta, so even that can be installed aftermarket. Same can be said for the chrome inserts, power folding mirrors (though most likely a bit expensive) and alarm.

    Needless to say, I'd go for the E.

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    Sir GTi

    Thanks for the input. Discuss first with my wife before deciding which is which...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartbuddy View Post
    Sir GTi

    Thanks for the input. Discuss first with my wife before deciding which is which...
    Tama yan bro. Ika nga happy wife, happy life. 😁 But whichever variant you get, you won't go wrong with the Innova. I just came back from a Baguio trip and I already saw the latest Innova being used as taxicabs there! Sosyal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Tama yan bro. Ika nga happy wife, happy life. 😁 But whichever variant you get, you won't go wrong with the Innova. I just came back from a Baguio trip and I already saw the latest Innova being used as taxicabs there! Sosyal!

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    This is the reason why, if you're from Baguio, you shouldn't get a pearl white Innova. You'll only get flagged down by mistaken commuters for the premium you paid. 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartbuddy View Post
    Sirs,

    Maibalik ko lang sa original topic, based on what i read on the specifications between the two the following items below are the differences:

    Meron sa G pero wala sa E
    1. mood light
    2. navi system
    3. auto climate control (front and rear)
    4. combination of fabric orange/brown seats
    5. rear sensors
    6. full steering control
    7. wood panel
    8. electric folding mirrors
    9. chrome door handle
    10. chrome grill accent
    11. paddle lamp (light under the side mirrors)
    12. folding tray behind front seats.
    13. Alarm with immobilizer

    Are these additional specs worth the difference? Thanks
    i have an E. i had the alarm installed in-casa. ...got the cheapest they had to offer. ok naman.
    i don't miss those other added conveniences at all. ...well, maybe except for the rear sensors. kaka-atras ko lang kasi sa aircon duct... ouch!
    if buyer wishes, as GTI says, get an E and have the accessories you want, installed ex-casa.
    Last edited by dr. d; May 4th, 2017 at 08:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i have an E. i had the alarm installed in-casa. ...got the cheapest they had to offer. ok naman.
    i don't miss those other added conveniences at all. ...well, maybe except for the rear sensors. kaka-atras ko lang kasi sa aircon duct... ouch!
    if buyer wishes, as GTI says, get an E and have the accessories you want, installed ex-casa.
    Install a backup cam! I got mine for just 1500, coupled to my touchscreen HU. If feeling cheap, then backup mirror. Came stock with the Granvia and had one installed on Revo. One of the most useful purchases in my life. 😆

    Auto climate control doesn't have much appeal to me. My 20 year old Granvia has it. Doesn't make the aircon any cooler than the Revo's traditional slide type aircon (both newly cleaned).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Install a backup cam! I got mine for just 1500, coupled to my touchscreen HU. If feeling cheap, then backup mirror. Came stock with the Granvia and had one installed on Revo. One of the most useful purchases in my life. 😆

    Auto climate control doesn't have much appeal to me. My 20 year old Granvia has it. Doesn't make the aircon any cooler than the Revo's traditional slide type aircon (both newly cleaned).

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    i know!
    in my old besta with mirrors, i could back up to within 2 inches of... (of course, the super-smooth mazda clutch that i had installed, helped.)
    but my current innova has no touch screen... huhuhu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i know!
    in my old besta with mirrors, i could back up to within 2 inches of... (of course, the super-smooth mazda clutch that i had installed, helped.)
    but my current innova has no touch screen... huhuhu.
    Haha backup mirror ulit. Cheap too. Have LEDs installed in the reverse lights for better night visibility.

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