Hyundai Accent Hatchback 1.5 E AT vs. Ford Fiesta 1.5L Sport+

[juneym]

Hello there,

I drive a 96 Honda Civic and felt that it's time to replace the car since maintenance is
getting expensive and frequent.

I'm having a hard time deciding which of the following car I should should get

• Hyundai Accent CRDI HB 1.6 E AT - nice engine but the 2014 edition doesn't get all the nice things that 2013 edition has. (test driven)
• Ford Fiesta 1.5L Sports+ AT - nice conformable ride. My wife loved it (porma, touch screen, dashboards, overall interior)
• Ford Fiesta 1.0L Ecoboost - FC rating is amazing (test driven)

Mga tanong ko as a brand new car buyer (since every Peso count ika nga

• Mahal ba talaga ang maintenance ng Ford Fiesta AT than the Hyundai Accent CRDI AT? -- well according sa Hyundai agent after I told her na we are also considering the Fiesta.
• Tried calling several Hyundai Dealership asking if may available pang Hyundai Accent HB 2013 model but most of them wala na daw. Any suggestion po?
• Been through a lot of related forum posts mostly discussing the AT model of these cars. Kumusta naman kaya ang experience driving the Manual Transmission?

Thanks in advance

[AG4]

Mga tanong ko as a brand new car buyer (since every Peso count ika nga

• Mahal ba talaga ang maintenance ng Ford Fiesta AT than the Hyundai Accent CRDI AT? -- well according sa Hyundai agent after I told her na we are also considering the Fiesta.
• Tried calling several Hyundai Dealership asking if may available pang Hyundai Accent HB 2013 model but most of them wala na daw. Any suggestion po?
• Been through a lot of related forum posts mostly discussing the AT model of these cars. Kumusta naman kaya ang experience driving the Manual Transmission?

1. Maintenance costs of diesel cars (PMS) are usually (a bit?) higher than gasoline models.
In general, the maintenance cost of Thai assembled Ford models like the Fiesta, Focus, Everest, Ranger etc are usually close to that of an equivalent model from a Japanese brand.
The reason why people here think all Fords are very expensive to maintain is because the first models Ford sold here when they returned to our market in the late 90s were gas guzzling CBU from North America models like the F150, Expedition, Club Wagon etc, at that time spare parts were not as common as today.
Ford vehicles are becoming a more common sight on local roads (now the 4th best selling brand here) so there are more 3rd party shops that carry Ford parts now compared to a decade ago.

3. I'm not sure about the Accent, but the MT Fords are usually ok. If I was going to buy a Fiesta, i'd go for the mid-trim level MT Trend model since i've always prefered driving MT cars and it's already well-equipped (dual-airbags, ABS, power features, 15 inch alloy wheels etc). The MT Trend has no voice activated SYNC system though.

Out of curiosity, what features did they take out of the 2014 Accent HB?

[yebo]

Di ba yung a/t ng fiesta may problema? O focus yun?

[dct]

Di ba yung a/t ng fiesta may problema? O focus yun?

parehas sir. ewan ko kung tinuturing ng ford na "problema" yun. hehe

[jeDi13]

I agree with AG4. Generally, diesel cars are more expensive to maintain than gasoline-fed vehicles. More consumable parts to clean or replace.

Will you use the car as your daily drive? Within the city during rush hour? If yes, then I wouldn't suggest getting a MT. For me, getting overzealous on a brand new MT car in city driving during rush hour is understandable, especially during the first few days, weeks, or months of experience. Eventually, the feeling will go away, day by day, just for the mere fact of having to endure hours of city traffic. Add to that the heavy clutch of accent MT, and skinnier tires over the AT variant.

Over the 2 Fiestas, I would say get the one with the EcoBoost. For Php 30K more, you get more power and torque, at a smaller engine displacement at that. Rregarding the problems/issues with the PowerShift, I've read somewhere that the jerk/judder/hesitation/gear hunting is lessened on the EcoBoostvariant. And since you're considering 2 Fords on your purchase, better read about them, in this forum and other sites as well, to get informed on other owners' experiences. They seem to have found a way to lessen the issue with PowerShift.

I am also considering these cars on my next purchase. But with all the issues I've been reading, I'm still on the side, waiting for the "right time" and the "right car" to buy. I'm not looking for a perfect car because there will never be one. But with my situation, I'm not in a hurry to buy right now, I still have my Civic ES AT as my daily drive. Unfortunately for you, you can't seem to delay the purchase of a brand new car. So I would say any of your pick would be a good purchase. And I am leaning slightly (as in a hairstrand-thin bias) on the EcoBoost.

I know it may be out of your options, but I'm also considering the Mirage and EcoSport on my choices. The Wigo could've gotten in the list, but easily topped by the Mirage. Then aside from that, a pick-up(3.2MT Ranger)/mid-size SUV (T6-based Everest, or next gen Fortuner/Montero) too, but that's a different story.

Goodluck and congrats in advance, whatever your choice may be.

[tidus1203]

Di ba yung a/t ng fiesta may problema? O focus yun?

You must be referring to the Powershift. Yes it can be very uncomfy during slow stop and go crawl, and yes there have been a handful reports of transmission failures and TCM failures as well. I would stick with a manual...

[Tj_abs]

1. Maintenance costs of diesel cars (PMS) are usually (a bit?) higher than gasoline models.
In general, the maintenance cost of Thai assembled Ford models like the Fiesta, Focus, Everest, Ranger etc are usually close to that of an equivalent model from a Japanese brand.
The reason why people here think all Fords are very expensive to maintain is because the first models Ford sold here when they returned to our market in the late 90s were gas guzzling CBU from North America models like the F150, Expedition, Club Wagon etc, at that time spare parts were not as common as today.
Ford vehicles are becoming a more common sight on local roads (now the 4th best selling brand here) so there are more 3rd party shops that carry Ford parts now compared to a decade ago.

3. I'm not sure about the Accent, but the MT Fords are usually ok. If I was going to buy a Fiesta, i'd go for the mid-trim level MT Trend model since i've always prefered driving MT cars and it's already well-equipped (dual-airbags, ABS, power features, 15 inch alloy wheels etc). The MT Trend has no voice activated SYNC system though.

Out of curiosity, what features did they take out of the 2014 Accent HB?

Very true. There are many third party supplier of ford spareparts here in our country.




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[170kphlang]

1. Maintenance costs of diesel cars (PMS) are usually (a bit?) higher than gasoline models.
In general, the maintenance cost of Thai assembled Ford models like the Fiesta, Focus, Everest, Ranger etc are usually close to that of an equivalent model from a Japanese brand.
The reason why people here think all Fords are very expensive to maintain is because the first models Ford sold here when they returned to our market in the late 90s were gas guzzling CBU from North America models like the F150, Expedition, Club Wagon etc, at that time spare parts were not as common as today.
Ford vehicles are becoming a more common sight on local roads (now the 4th best selling brand here) so there are more 3rd party shops that carry Ford parts now compared to a decade ago.

3. I'm not sure about the Accent, but the MT Fords are usually ok. If I was going to buy a Fiesta, i'd go for the mid-trim level MT Trend model since i've always prefered driving MT cars and it's already well-equipped (dual-airbags, ABS, power features, 15 inch alloy wheels etc). The MT Trend has no voice activated SYNC system though.

Out of curiosity, what features did they take out of the 2014 Accent HB?

the rear disc brakes, abs,ebd, steering wheel audio controls, center console, adjustable steering column and the 16" mags

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[jeDi13]

the rear disc brakes, abs,ebd, steering wheel audio controls, center console, adjustable steering column and the 16" mags

Sent from Constantinople

all in exchange for projector headlamps, dual airbags, and an integrated HU

[Sarsi]

Hyundai Quezon Avenue has one unit available for the 2013 accent hb, it's silver.

We were able to get the clean blue one to be released by monday or tuesday

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[yebo]

parehas sir. ewan ko kung tinuturing ng ford na "problema" yun. hehe

So in denial pala sila. Paano kung nag warranty claim ka? Wala ba recall?

[Louie Anson Ng]

So in denial pala sila. Paano kung nag warranty claim ka? Wala ba recall?

As a Fiesta AT owner I don't think that it's that big of an issue to the point na kailangan ng recall. The jerking/shuddering only occurs occasionally during lower gears in stop-and-go traffic. Otherwise maganda naman talaga ang drive ng Fiesta. My only disappointment is the lack of instantaneous acceleration when pedalling hard kasi mabagal ang acceleration niya.

[glntVR]

Between the two cars, I'd pick the Ford Fiesta because it has a much better interior. The Accent has a fantastic
engine but that's about it. Interior is a huge let down for me, which is an important factor since you spend most
of the time inside the car.

But don't expect cheap maintenance for either cars. Accent will have slightly higher PMS cost due to it being a diesel.
Ford will have slightly higher PM cost vs. your average Honda or Toyota. Just had a Corolla 2.0 and a Focus sport
serviced for the 10TKM check up. Overall PM cost was higher for the Ford. Both using Full Synthetic oil.

[jut703]

Between the two cars, I'd pick the Ford Fiesta because it has a much better interior. The Accent has a fantastic
engine but that's about it. Interior is a huge let down for me, which is an important factor since you spend most
of the time inside the car.

But don't expect cheap maintenance for either cars. Accent will have slightly higher PMS cost due to it being a diesel.
Ford will have slightly higher PM cost vs. your average Honda or Toyota. Just had a Corolla 2.0 and a Focus sport
serviced for the 10TKM check up. Overall PM cost was higher for the Ford. Both using Full Synthetic oil.

A bit OT bro but could you share the PMS price of your 2.0 Altis vs Focus Sport+? And siguro details na rin on why mas mahal (cost per liter of oil, labor fee, etc).

It would help buyers have a concrete idea of how much higher Ford PMS is compared to other brands.


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[glenn manikis]

accent for me.. cheaper to maintain in the long run..

just consider the fuel savings you will get...

and also what is there to maintain on a diesel.. change oil lang noh...

calibration? it will take you at least 7years before ka mag pa calibrate.. just be sure the diesel you put in is clean... and regularly change the fuel filters...

power.. no contest... accent wins hands down...

accent parts availability... madami kang mabibile nyan sa banawe... its a korean car... ang daming seller nyan...

ford cars are really nice.... actually i own one a ford focus 50k na mileage nya.. pero nag sisisi ako sana nag toyota nalang ako or honda... ang hirap masiraan sa daan... walang alam gumawa!!! casa lang talaga... then yung parts.... medyo pricey pa... like for example yung side mirror nag palit ako... the cheapest i got sa banawe 2nd hand pa is 12k... then yun issue pa ng ford cars eh yung a/t tranny.. pag ayan ang nasira at out of warranty na... i think nasa 200k ang price... not sure ha....

its better to ask.. casa how much ang tranny nila... kung tranny ang madalas masira.. dapat handa ka.. in case masira... can you aFORD it? he.he..

mine so far.. several times nagloko.. handa naman ako... handa e-junk... he.he..

[juneym]

accent for me.. cheaper to maintain in the long run..

just consider the fuel savings you will get...

and also what is there to maintain on a diesel.. change oil lang noh...

calibration? it will take you at least 7years before ka mag pa calibrate.. just be sure the diesel you put in is clean... and regularly change the fuel filters...

power.. no contest... accent wins hands down...

accent parts availability... madami kang mabibile nyan sa banawe... its a korean car... ang daming seller nyan...

ford cars are really nice.... actually i own one a ford focus 50k na mileage nya.. pero nag sisisi ako sana nag toyota nalang ako or honda... ang hirap masiraan sa daan... walang alam gumawa!!! casa lang talaga... then yung parts.... medyo pricey pa... like for example yung side mirror nag palit ako... the cheapest i got sa banawe 2nd hand pa is 12k... then yun issue pa ng ford cars eh yung a/t tranny.. pag ayan ang nasira at out of warranty na... i think nasa 200k ang price... not sure ha....

its better to ask.. casa how much ang tranny nila... kung tranny ang madalas masira.. dapat handa ka.. in case masira... can you aFORD it? he.he..

mine so far.. several times nagloko.. handa naman ako... handa e-junk... he.he..

I will keep this in mind. Sana wag naman ang transmission ang marisa, 200k is too much... pangpa-renovate na yan ng bubong ng bahay ko!

[juneym]

Between the two cars, I'd pick the Ford Fiesta because it has a much better interior. The Accent has a fantastic
engine but that's about it. Interior is a huge let down for me, which is an important factor since you spend most
of the time inside the car.

But don't expect cheap maintenance for either cars. Accent will have slightly higher PMS cost due to it being a diesel.
Ford will have slightly higher PM cost vs. your average Honda or Toyota. Just had a Corolla 2.0 and a Focus sport
serviced for the 10TKM check up. Overall PM cost was higher for the Ford. Both using Full Synthetic oil.

Agreed. I already bought the 2014 Ford Fiesta 1.5L PS Sport 3 days ago. I didn't pick the Ecoboost version kase i think it's so new the market. Hopefull kung okay ang Ford, the next ford purchase will have an EcoBoost engine. It's an impressive little engine. My wife made a thumbs up nung nakita nya yung Ford Fiesta interior and overall looks because she was able to compare yung riding comfort especially sa rear-seats. Hopeful that we've made the right decision.

Very true din yung mga sinabi niyo about Hyundai Accent HB, madami natanggal talaga.


Thank you po sa lahat ng nag-reply! More power!

[jcal68]

I normally go for a diesel engine. However, the accent's transmission is only 4 speed. In city driving, I believe it will be more fuel efficient. However for highway driving, an overdrive 5th gear takes the lead.

[dct]

I normally go for a diesel engine. However, the accent's transmission is only 4 speed. In city driving, I believe it will be more fuel efficient. However for highway driving, an overdrive 5th gear takes the lead.

i disagree sir. very smooth ang automatic transmission ng accent crdi. whereas ang powershift ng fiesta nalilito saan nya ilalagay

[3GEMS]

i disagree sir. very smooth ang automatic transmission ng accent crdi. whereas ang powershift ng fiesta nalilito saan nya ilalagay

Very smooth ang powershift sa highway drive parang CVT ...


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