Sir Help pong mag-decide...sedan cars under 900K

[karl122392]

Mga sir, pa-help pong mag-decide what car to choose...

Choices: Toyota Corolla Altis, Mitsubishi Lancer, Mazda3, Honda City, Nissan Sentra, Chevroler Aveo/Optra.
Focus on the toyota, nissan, honda and mazda po...

Priority:
1. Safety
2. Design - Exterior
3. Design - Interior
4. Fuel Economy
5. Experience po siguro ninyo with these cars...

Yun lang po...Thanks in advance!

[istan]

Civic <- kasi kakaiba
Altis <- kasi bago
Mazda <- porma sya
Mitsu <- safe to say, you want the non-Mivec ones (current model 1.6L)
Sentra <- lamig aircon, dami parts
Optra
City <- 1 class smaller, fuel efficient, marami parts.
Aveo <- 1 class smaller

[s_quilicot]

Mga sir, pa-help pong mag-decide what car to choose...

Choices: Toyota Corolla Altis, Mitsubishi Lancer, Mazda3, Honda City, Nissan Sentra, Chevroler Aveo/Optra.
Focus on the toyota, nissan, honda and mazda po...

Priority:
1. Safety
2. Design - Exterior
3. Design - Interior
4. Fuel Economy
5. Experience po siguro ninyo with these cars...

Yun lang po...Thanks in advance!

altis- bago, maporma, no prob coz TOYOTA, merong parts kahit sa sarisari store .. reliable

civic- same as altis except na honda and much more accesories ...

lancer- ahh ewan pero ok cguro ..

sentra- weak engine, lamig aircon, onti accesories and di ganun ka dami for the current model ..

mazda3- expensive parts but reliable sporty

optra/aveo- DAEWOO on DISGUISE .. IMO peace to all optra/aveo owners ..

[Mschumacher]

hehe add ko lang. Try mo kia carens - car like, 7 seater, under 900k for the diesel manual. Fuel efficient. CRDI ka na naka VGT ka pa

[mqavila]

hehe add ko lang. Try mo kia carens - car like, 7 seater, under 900k for the diesel manual. Fuel efficient. CRDI ka na naka VGT ka pa

+1 on this. :D

[mazdamazda]

altis- bago, maporma, no prob coz TOYOTA, merong parts kahit sa sarisari store .. reliable

Are you sure about that? I have a Toyota and it does have problems from time to time... Toyotas are not bulletproof.

And oh... Altis parts in sari-sari stores? Maybe for the old Corollas...



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Under 900K... my 1st pick would be the Honda Civic... here's the specs from motioncars.com

http://www.motioncars.com/carchart/h...onda_civic.htm

The 1.8s variant is just priced just right with the engine that you are getting.

My second pick would be the Mazda3... specs again from motioncars.com

http://www.motioncars.com/carchart/h...004_mazda3.htm

Yes... it'll be slower than the Civic 1.8 on a straight line but handles better (and looks better also IMO).

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[tidus1203]

Agree with mazdamazda, the modern Toyotas are not cheap to maintain; yung panahon ng Big body and Lovelife oo mas mura maintenance kaysa Honda pero simula nung ZZ 1st gen Altis nagbago ang Corolla mas naging elite na so ayun pati parts and maintenance Honda like na....

Back to topic. Civic 1.8S ako hands down for a P900k budget. SO let at look at your criteria and why I would pick the Civic... Byu the way forget the Chevrolet, sakit sa ulo nyan pag dating sa parts takaw gasolina pa.... As for Nissan, I find the new Sentra the most boring and unappealing car so I will skip it too.... So ako Civic, Corolla, or 3 lang sa choices pagpipilian ko....

1. Safety - parepareho lang yan 3 na yan to be honest....
2. Design - Exterior - this is subjective some people like the conservative Corolla, some like futuristic Civic, and some like the sporty Mazda 3. Ikaw lang makakadecide nito....
3. Design - Interior - Civic for me. Nakakaaliw yung digital speedometer... Legroom is very good for a compact, but I think the Corolla is a bit bigger. The Corolla is ok pero boring looks and whats with that fake wood?
4. Fuel Economy - Mazda 3 is probably the worse among the 3 kasi mabigat sya for 1.6L. I think the Civic still reigns here since it has a superior power/weight ratio among the 3. I get around 10.5-11km/L city driving with my 1.8V AT Civic....

Biased ba ako? Probably, probably not... Pero I also went through your choices myself last month and I did choose the Civic afterall and those are my reasoning why I chose the Civic myself....

[glenngj]

my first pick would be honda civic and the other is ford focus crdi..

Makabagong makinang diesel

Junep Ocampo

Sa mahal ng gasolina ngayon, hindi kataka-taka na marami sa atin ang naghahanap ng kotseng diesel ang makina. Lima hanggang pitong piso kasi ang diprensya ng presyo ng isang litrong gasolina sa isang litrong diesel. Sa isang full tank, umaabot sa P300 ang natitipid ng mga naka-diesel. At sa mga malalayo ang biyahe, ang P300 na ito ay umaabot sa libu-libo buwan-buwan.
Pero maraming kababayan natin ang ayaw sa diesel kahit pa gusto nilang magtipid. Ayaw kasi nila ng mausok, maingay at mabagal. Ito kasi ang tatlong “M” na madalas na ikinakabit sa makinang diesel.

Hindi na ngayon.

Pinasubok sa akin ng Ford Group Philippines ang pinakabago nilang kotse – ang Ford Focus hatchback na diesel ang makina. Mula sa labas ay wala itong pagkakaiba sa ibang Focus, maliban sa mas sporty ang dating nito dahil hatchback. At wala ring pagkakaiba ang loob nito sa ibang Focus.
Kung hindi ka madetalye, ni hindi mo siguro mapapansin ang “6” na nakasulat sa kambyo o ang TDCi na nakasulat sa puwitan ng otong ito.
Ang ibig sabihin ng “6” ay six-speed at ang TDCI ay “Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection.” Sa medaling paliwanag, isa lang ibig pakihulugan nito – matuling diesel na kotse.
Ang Focus na pinasubok sa akin ay resulta ng common rail direct injection (CRDi) technology na ngayon ay sikat na sikat sa Europa. Sa mga walang alam sa makina, narito ang konting paliwanag. Ang diesel po kasi ay nangangailangan ng mataas na pressure para masunog. Hindi ito gaya ng gasoline na medaling magliyab. Kaya naman sa ang mga lumang diesel engine ay maingay – dahil malakas na puwersa ang ibinibigay nito para umandar.
Ito ang ginawang modern ng CRDi. Sa pamamagitan ng common rail – isang tubo na kontrolado ng computer – ginagawang tila hamog ang diesel at ini-spray sa loob ng makina para medaling sunugin. Ang resulta ay mas tahimik at mas matulin na andar ng sasakyan.
Dumarami na ang mga sasakyang gumagamit ng CRDi engines. Ang mga bagong Hyundai ay ganito na ang makina. Maging ang mga bagong sasakyan ng Toyota gaya ng Fortuner at Innova ay naka CRDi na rin.

Balik tayo sa Focus.

Ang huling kotseng diesel na minaneho ko ay Isuzu Gemini. Noon kasing ‘70s at ‘80s ay Gemini lamang ang oto na diesel ang makina. Nung mga ‘90s at ngayong dekada 2000 naman ay nalimita sa AUVs, pickups at mga trucks ang mga makinang diesel. Ngayon na nga lang naglalabasan ang mga kotseng diesel ang makina at maging ang BMW ay may modelo (530d) na diesel ang karga.
Anong masasabi ko sa Focus? Sinlayo ng langit at lupa ang pagkakaiba ng kumbensyunal na diesel engine sa makina ng Focus. Sa pag-start pa lang ay walang ingay at vibration. Sa pag-arangkada ay maliksi at mabilis ang response ng makina. At lalo na sa rekta. Makakalimutan mo ngang may 6th gear pa dahil sa 5th gear pa lang ay nag-150kph na ang takbo ko sa NLEX.

Talagang ibang-iba!

At nakakapanibago ang konsumo ng Focus dahil simula pa noong Biyernes ay ibiniyahe ko na ito ng mahigit 500 kilometro sa Laguna at Pampanga pero hanggang kahapon ay nangangalahati pa lang ang fuel gauge nito.
Kung naghahanap kayo ng kotse na maporma, matulin, masarap gamitin at matipid, silipin n’yo ang Ford Focus diesel. Medyo mahal nga lang ang presyo nito kumpara sa de-gasolinang Focus. Pero ibang-iba naman talaga sa tipid at performance.

[tidus1203]

Oh yeah we forgot the Focus CRDi. Pero kapos yung budget mo kasi over P1M yung Focus CRDi. May ibang lower end Focus pero CRDi version is the only one really worth considering....

[s_quilicot]

Are you sure about that? I have a Toyota and it does have problems from time to time... Toyotas are not bulletproof.

And oh... Altis parts in sari-sari stores? Maybe for the old Corollas...



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Under 900K... my 1st pick would be the Honda Civic... here's the specs from motioncars.com

http://www.motioncars.com/carchart/h...onda_civic.htm

The 1.8s variant is just priced just right with the engine that you are getting.

My second pick would be the Mazda3... specs again from motioncars.com

http://www.motioncars.com/carchart/h...004_mazda3.htm

Yes... it'll be slower than the Civic 1.8 on a straight line but handles better (and looks better also IMO).

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sari-sari store of the future .. hehe ..
- peace

[niky]

+1 on what Mazdamazda said... you CANNOT find Corolla parts at the sari-sari store, anymore... a lot of relatives have old Corollas, and yes, it's very easy to find parts for them (although if you use the cheapest parts, they'll break more easily...)

But now my cousin owns an Altis... and for some parts, he has to send out to Banawe like us non-Toyota owners have to do. The ZZ engine in the Corolla is completely different from that of the old ones (4AFE), and it is not as bulletproof and not as cheap to maintain.

The Corolla is still a good car, considering the engine is relatively torquey and fuel-efficient, but the new Altis is heavier than the old one, so fuel economy may suffer.

Mga sir, pa-help pong mag-decide what car to choose...

Choices: Toyota Corolla Altis, Mitsubishi Lancer, Mazda3, Honda City, Nissan Sentra, Chevroler Aveo/Optra.
Focus on the toyota, nissan, honda and mazda po...

Priority:
1. Safety
2. Design - Exterior
3. Design - Interior
4. Fuel Economy
5. Experience po siguro ninyo with these cars...

Yun lang po...Thanks in advance!

1. Safety -

You can't go wrong with any of the more moderm cars. The Mazda3, Ford Focus and Honda Civic are all very stiff designs and should provide excellent crash survivability. The Optra, Sentra and current Lancer are a generation behind, the old Lancer and the previous Corolla don't score as well as the newer designs here in terms of impact safety, but the new Corolla and upcoming Lancer should be very safe.

2. Design - Exterior

It's personal preference, mostly. I like the looks of the Mazda3 and the new Lancer... followed by the Civic... the Focus and Corolla share third.

3. Design - Interior

The Mazda3, hands down. Best seats, best seating position. The Focus and Corolla, maybe second place... I haven't ridden the new Corolla over long distances, so I can't tell you how comfortable it is. The new Civic looks good inside, but I have a big issue with seat comfort. But if you're not a big person, it's not a big deal.

The Sentra has a cramped rear... the new Lancer, haven't had enough seat time (looks good, though, from when we saw it at the motor show), the old Lancer has a cramped rear, the Optra has a decent but bland interior.

4. Fuel Economy

It's hard to say. The Civic's engine is economical for a 1.8, but the new Corolla uses the same 1.6 as before. In the previous Altis, this engine gave great economy, but the new Corolla is heavier. The Mazda3 and Focus suffer in traffic due to their heavy bodies, but they actually get pretty good economy on the highway... especially with the revisions to the Mazda3's 1.6 MZR. The Optra? Forget about it... ...it's better than before, but I don't know if it's actually good... but the engine and transmission are terribly sluggish. The old Lancer should be decent, the Sentra, merely average.

5. Experience po siguro ninyo with these cars...

If the seats aren't an issue, the Civic is a great buy. The Mazda3 is a very good choice, too... it gets a bad rap for fuel economy, but when I drove it, I was actually impressed... it's just that it's a heavy car, and people press the gas harder to make it move in traffic... if you drive it normally, you can get decent economy. The Focus provides much more kit than any car under 900k... including rear airconditioning (cool, literally... )... it's worth a look. The 1.8 engine isn't as good as the Civic's, but it's got lots of power. And the Focus has the best chassis and suspension in the class, period. If sporty driving is your thing, this is your car. But if your idea of "sporty" is drag-racing, it's the Civic that comes out on top.

The new Corolla? We have to do a more extensive test. Personally, I'd say: why pay new money for old tech? Just buy an old Altis... ...the new one seems to have a much softer suspension and electric steering... which seems too light, to boot... so it may not be confidence-building to drive. Not an issue in the city, but that combination doesn't bode well for long-distance driving.

The rest? Well, if they appeal to you, it's your money...