1 Corolla GLi or 2 Sentra ECCS?

[squala]

A friend of mine has around 250K budget but cannot quite choose which one to buy. Here's what he has evaluated so far.

GLi
- better looks
- a bit quicker
- more efficient with fuel
- better price and availability for spare parts

ECCS
- 2 heads are better than 1, especially for coding days
- Colder aircon
- Independent rear suspension (?)

Please post your opinions. I myself am interested in what my friend has here, and now wondering if I should have gotten a Sentra duo instead.

[basti08]

here's just a suggestion...

i wont get a Sentra duo, neither the GLi...instead if i were him, ill buy an ECCS (facelifted version) and an itlog 93 Lancer GLXi...

kasi kung parehong Sentra ang korny naman IMO, dalawa narin lang kunin mo, sana magkaron na ng variations dba? but its just IMHO.

Lancer
+
~Suspension
~parts and its price (like a Corolla)
~styling (subjective naman to eh)
~fuel efficient

-
~Suspension (makalampag)
~power windows
~AC not very cold

Sentra SS

~its actually quicker than the GLi as per C/D test
~fuel efficient too (due to light body)
~AC
~independent suspension
~lot of features

-
~resale
~parts slightly pricier

[squala]

Sentra SS

~its actually quicker than the GLi as per C/D test
~fuel efficient too (due to light body)

You mean Car & Driver? If I'm not mistaken, the 4A-FE of the USDM Corolla is a bit weaker than the one here. Power is only about 100 hp (vs. 110) and redline 6000 rpm or earlier even (comprared to 6200). Nissans in the US also seem to be better made than in our country.

As for the fuel economy, you're the first one I encountered who said it's efficient. Among 1.6 cars, many say this is a guzzler like the Mazda Familia, while Corolla, Civic VTEC and Lancer are the stingiest. The AE101 GLi is also a bit lighter than the Sentra.

[basti08]

As for the fuel economy, you're the first one I encountered who said it's efficient. Among 1.6 cars, many say this is a guzzler like the Mazda Familia, while Corolla, Civic VTEC and Lancer are the stingiest. The AE101 GLi is also a bit lighter than the Sentra.

the sentra gas guzzler that i know of is the LEC and LEC PS as well as the FE.
its because they have 1.3L DOHC 16valve but is wearing a carb not yet EFI.
i have experienced driving a LEC PS, i dont know why but the PS seemed to have added worser fuel readings. FE wears the same engine as the LEC.

we've owned a B14 EX Saloon, its fuel efficient i can vouch for that. we can get 10km/l during normal driving to as high as 11.5-12km/l.
SS S3 is fuel efficient too. 7-9km/l so easy to get during normal driving.
yes, ive heard that the Mazda 323 Familia quite a guzzler but i think its the AT variant. MTs quite stingy too.
323 gen1(aka box type) in my theory could be the guzzler of the bunch as it has same engine design as the LEC Sentra a 1.3L DOHC 16v Carb.

[BlueBimmer]

Gli then scooter!

[van_wilder]

250? 98 corolla then skateboard!

[basti08]

why not 4 Kia pride?

[BlueBimmer]

langhyang mga advice n suggestions, pampagulo

[van_wilder]

or limang lancer box type tapos iba't ibang kulay... depende sa suot niya yun gagamitin niya na auto... yan ang tunay na color coding!

[basti08]

oist tama ne!!! tama ne! baka sundin tayow! ahehehe

[russpogi]

or limang lancer box type tapos iba't ibang kulay... depende sa suot niya yun gagamitin niya na auto... yan ang tunay na color coding!

PANALO! hehehe!

[bilog]

get the corolla. Pero di ko rin maintindihan kung bakit kailangan pa ng dalawang parehong sasakyan. Kung gusto talaga ng dalawang auto, try buying two different units. 1 sentra and 1 kia pride. We got our 2002 Kia pride for 138k only.

[squala]

You guys are right. Maybe a Sentra and Lancer are a better pair than merely 2 Sentras. My friend is also considering an ESi, but was surprised that it has just about the same resale value as a GLi of similar age.

[basti08]

USDM Corolla DX same as the AE101 but had 1.8L 110hp accelerates to 60mph in 9.3secs and gets 28mpg.
USDM Sentra GXE same as the b13 (aka S2) had only 1.6L also 110hp does the same in just 8.5secs and gets 30mpg.

i dont think the weaker 1.6L in RP spec AE101 GLi can beat the 9.3sec of the DX nor the 8.5sec run of the Sentra, it may get equal or slightly better mileage though.

my cousin still has an S2 and its fuel efficient still can get 8km/l during normal driving.
as i was saying its fuel efficient and quick due to its light body.

[squala]

USDM Corolla DX same as the AE101 but had 1.8L 110hp accelerates to 60mph in 9.3secs and gets 28mpg.
USDM Sentra GXE same as the b13 (aka S2) had only 1.6L also 110hp does the same in just 8.5secs and gets 30mpg.

i dont think the weaker 1.6L in RP spec AE101 GLi can beat the 9.3sec of the DX nor the 8.5sec run of the Sentra, it may get equal or slightly better mileage though.

my cousin still has an S2 and its fuel efficient still can get 8km/l during normal driving.
as i was saying its fuel efficient and quick due to its light body.

I beg to disagree. The Corolla AE101 DX has a 1.6 engine, although the US also had a 1.8 LE variant (AE102).

And 8.5-second 0-60 for a Sentra? Yeah, I think I read that C/D issue too, but there's absolute doubt that it can really do such a thing. Perhaps that's manufacturer's estimate. Even a stock EK VTi will have a hard time attaining that feat.

I also raced a B13 at the strip with my 101 and we were about equal. He had intake and exhaust mods compared to my air filter change only. I also had almost a full tank of gas at the time compared to his less than half, and I forgot to close my window as well (was my first time to drag race legally :lol: ).

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I beg to disagree. The Corolla AE101 DX has a 1.6 engine, although the US also had a 1.8 LE variant (AE102).

And 8.5-second 0-60 for a Sentra? Yeah, I think I read that C/D issue too, but there's absolute doubt that it can really do such a thing. Perhaps that's manufacturer's estimate. Even a stock EK VTi will have a hard time attaining that feat.

I also raced a B13 at the strip with my 101 and we were about equal. He had intake and exhaust mods compared to my air filter change only. I also had almost a full tank of gas at the time compared to his less than half, and I forgot to close my window as well (was my first time to drag race legally :lol: ).

Ahhh so ur the brother I asked on another thread this query-- what car did u used against the "tsuru", but yet to reply.. coz u also mentioned that particular race. ;) Whoah Sir?! This was one of the few times or I think this is even the 1st time I've heard of a stock 105hp GLI being faster than the eccs and w/ all those mini "partidas" pa?! I had the priveledge to drive those babies for quite some time and I can see the obvious difference in acceleration...(Our garage contains both, compound kc kami w/ relatives--1 happy family!) We'll then again maybe ur just the better "clutch" driver than ur opponent, or ur GLI is better conditioned. In fact, my friend and I used to race, me using the stock ECCS and him using the stock GLI.. let's just say I usually end up being treated afterwards, but when we decided to change cars.. damn! I was the one giving him lunch! GLI kc although DOHC, only one of the cams nakakabit yung timing belt. Sa looks factor naman, actually we can never say mas maganda yung isa coz it depends sa taong titingin. Pro walang sense na 2 eccs bibilhin nya ha.. and sa pricing naman yung ganyang ka-cheap na eccs e probably not well maintained or even worse bka carnap or baka dyan i-nambush si ganito! as for the GLI...what year ba yan? naka-set up ba? kc it's expensive! Even my uncle who is in the car buy n' sell buss. says these pricing stated are really "extremes".. Sa parts, both have good availability, I know coz ako lagi nauutusan bumili ng piyesa ng mga yan! Maghanap na lng friend mo ng 1 ECCS na nasa mint condition kahit medyo above P125,000 , then if he still has money left buy more parts na pang set-up. Sayang these b13 babyzillas are popular in the states evenmore in mexico w/c still has production of it up to now!!

[ghosthunter]

if fuel efficiency is a problem... why not get the Sentra 1.4L?

[ghosthunter]

A friend of mine has around 250K budget but cannot quite choose which one to buy. Here's what he has evaluated so far.

GLi
- better looks
- a bit quicker
- more efficient with fuel
- better price and availability for spare parts

ECCS
- 2 heads are better than 1, especially for coding days
- Colder aircon
- Independent rear suspension (?)

Please post your opinions. I myself am interested in what my friend has here, and now wondering if I should have gotten a Sentra duo instead.

the problem with the Sentra B13 1.6L is the engine GA16DE is not that fuel efficent. It is powerful (110HP) but with the cost of gasoline today, fuel milage is a major consideration.

The Sentra B14 GA16DNE engine is slightly weaker (105HP) but gives slightly better fuel milage.

[basti08]

the problem with the Sentra B13 1.6L is the engine GA16DE is not that fuel efficent. It is powerful (110HP) but with the cost of gasoline today, fuel milage is a major consideration.

The Sentra B14 GA16DNE engine is slightly weaker (105HP) but gives slightly better fuel milage.

ghosthunter, did they brought here the GA16DNE? i thought its only the GA16DE that made it here, i still believe its fuel efficient

[an0nim0us]

110hp sentra can do 0-60 in 8.3 secs?

Wow this is a great car! it's faring even better than current 2.0 liter compacts. Is this the same as the Sentra SS series 3?

neway - back to topic, i think with a 250K budget it's just right to get 1 car (even if it is less than that amount) and spend the rest for repairs and some borloloys if he wants. getting two older cars might be 2x the headache considering that these are more than 10 years old units. IMO

between the two (or 3 ba? hehe) I'd go for the corolla tho.