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    Hello mga tsikoters, una sa lahat, marami na po akong na se-search na thread with this topic pero around 4 years old na po yung thread so sa tingin ko OK na pong gunawa ulit ng thread para dito? anyways, back to the topic. Need help po sana on deciding which of these three cars to buy as my 2nd car (upgrade), Ford Lynx RS, Honda Civic Dimension vti, Mitsubishi Lancer Cedia. I currently own a mitsubishi lancer itlog 1995 (EL), given that is my 1st car, my primary concerns are:

    1. Fuel Efficiency (my daily route to work is around 50km a day, mixed highway and light traffic)
    2. Riding Comfort and Looks (Lancer EL variants are 'all pawis' so I want to experience some riding comfort, not to mention the notorious suspension problems of old cars, lalo na sa mga itlog)
    3. Speed (again, Lancer EL has a 1.3 carb type engine so.. I know it contradicts to fuel efficiency but i'm willing to let go some efficiency as long as it gives me speed and riding comfort)
    4. Parts and maintenance
    5. Tight budget

    Given those 3 choices, I leaning towards the Ford Lynx RS because base on all that i've search the ride comfort that it gives is superb, my concern is the fuel cost if I would get it. My 2nd choice would be the Honda Civic vti (eagle eye), but the concern for this one is the price, I think it's around the 250k to 350k range, or the price that are posted are just super OP? Then the last choice would be the lancer cedia.

    Other suggestion aside from those 3 would be great, basta maliban sa toyota vios (2013 below) and honda city (2008 below ata?), yes fuel efficient yung dalawa na yun, pero di ko lang trip yung itsura nila, no offense sa mga nagmamayari ng mga model na yan, kanya kanyang trip lang yan. peace out! Salamat mga tsikoters!

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    Of the three, I'd go for the Lynx.

    Tight body, good suspension geometry (sticks on those sharp corners), and the 2 litre motor, never a slouch. Get one with a manual tranny.

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    Kung FC ang unang concern, I'd say sa 1.6 ka nalang. AFAIK ang pinakamatipid na 1.6 ang Altis.

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    Salamat po sa mga reply sir GTi and lowslowbenz. I would consider Altis, will do some research regarding that car, I need more suggestions guys, keep it coming!

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    If you want a younger car at that price, maybe you can look for a Sentra N16 GSX (MT). Don't go for the GX model as they are underpowered. Second hand price of Nissan cars are lower than Honda or Toyota.

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    Thanks sa suggestion sir Egan101, pero base sa mga na reresearch ko, mas pogi talaga ung civic dimension, lynx RS at lancer cedia. So kung pwede po i narrow down na lang natin sa 3, sa mga may first hand experience po dyan regarding sa criteria ko sa taas, your inputs would be highly appreciated. Thanks!

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    Baka puwede rin Mazda3 sa ganung price. I'd go with the Civic ES (Dimension) among your choices or maybe an Altis. The Lynx RS will be a good option if you long for a bigger engine. If going for the Civic ES, better go for redesigned models (2004-2005) if the budget allows it. There is also a 2.0L (K20) Civic ES that was released in 2004 & 2005 but it only comes in 5AT.

    If FC is not a concern, you can also consider a 6th gen Accord (2.0L or 2.3L, 1998-2002). It will be more comfortable than those 3 option of yours and no slouch in terms of performance. Not to mention, it provides great handling and solid suspension.
    Last edited by Egan101; August 6th, 2014 at 03:43 PM.

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    I would only go for manuals if I were you. And then again, since part of your route is highway, assuming that traffic conditions aren't bad, you can consider options with bigger engines.

    Among your choices, I prefer the Civic the most in terms of looks. Being a Honda, it is also very receptive to mods, should you choose to go that route.

    The Accord is a fine car indeed. Our 7th gen Accord 2.4A/T gets around 6-7km/L city, the 2.0 may get slightly more. Unfortunately, this model has no manual variant, which is only available upto the 6th gen(98-03).

    With your budget, you can also consider the Hyundai Matrix. CRDi engine is the same as the one in the Accent and Getz. Very fast, very thrifty.

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    The Lynx may give you more "smiles" per litre ........ IMHO

    :D

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    i have a 2003 cedia cvt mx (totl). and i tell you, i'm happy when i achieve 7 km/li daily metro driving... i do about 6-6.5 km/li without thinking about it.. but it drives comfortably enough.. and it's a (in my opinion) shiny red head-turner.
    in contrast, i get at least 10 km/li in my manual d4d!
    oh well... coding car lang naman..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i have a 2003 cedia cvt mx (totl). and i tell you, i'm happy when i achieve 7 km/li daily metro driving... i do about 6-6.5 km/li without thinking about it.. but it drives comfortably enough.. and it's a (in my opinion) shiny red head-turner.
    in contrast, i get at least 10 km/li in my manual d4d!
    oh well... coding car lang naman..
    I'm good with the 10km/L. What variant of the lancer would you suggest? There are 2 variants for the cedia model. (MX and GLX I think?). What are the difference between those 2?

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    *Naigi - are you limiting your options on a used car? If your monthly budget allows it, how about a new car?

    On the Lancer Cedia, the MX is the TOTL 1.6L model. It comes in tiptronic CVT. Not sure though, the GLX comes in MT while the GLS is AT. They all share the same 1.6L engine. A 2.0L Lancer GT model was also released locally. For that kind of FC from a 1.6L compact, you're not far off from a bigger-engined Lynx RS or Civic 2.0 or Accord or Galant consuming about the same fuel. However, that kind of FC is much better than the FC of the base 1.6L Lynx of the same era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    I would only go for manuals if I were you. And then again, since part of your route is highway, assuming that traffic conditions aren't bad, you can consider options with bigger engines.

    Among your choices, I prefer the Civic the most in terms of looks. Being a Honda, it is also very receptive to mods, should you choose to go that route.

    The Accord is a fine car indeed. Our 7th gen Accord 2.4A/T gets around 6-7km/L city, the 2.0 may get slightly more. Unfortunately, this model has no manual variant, which is only available upto the 6th gen(98-03).

    With your budget, you can also consider the Hyundai Matrix. CRDi engine is the same as the one in the Accent and Getz. Very fast, very thrifty.

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    Most likely I would go that route. MODS! But can I get a 2004 or 2005 civic with 200k budget? Or just a face lifted 2001 to 2003 models? And 1 more thing. Base on what I have searched. Is the vti (vtec3 I think) is more fuel efficient than the lxi variant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naigi View Post
    Most likely I would go that route. MODS! But can I get a 2004 or 2005 civic with 200k budget? Or just a face lifted 2001 to 2003 models? And 1 more thing. Base on what I have searched. Is the vti (vtec3 I think) is more fuel efficient than the lxi variant?
    A quick search at Olx will help you very much when looking for market value. Though remember that there is always room for negotiation. Sometimes that room can be huge, especially if demand for that car is low.

    Not sure as to your fuel efficiency question, but generally, the more powerful engine would be more fuel efficient under heavier stress situations (high speed or hill climbing). The opposite applies with the weaker engine. In this case, the VTi is more powerful than the LXi by a sizeable 20hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    A quick search at Olx will help you very much when looking for market value. Though remember that there is always room for negotiation. Sometimes that room can be huge, especially if demand for that car is low.

    Not sure as to your fuel efficiency question, but generally, the more powerful engine would be more fuel efficient under heavier stress situations (high speed or hill climbing). The opposite applies with the weaker engine. In this case, the VTi is more powerful than the LXi by a sizeable 20hp.

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    Tried to search OLX but I'm getting a range of 215k to 350k, and as you've said, some of those can have a huge negotiation really really confusing. anyways, thanks for the response Sir GTi, really appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naigi View Post
    Tried to search OLX but I'm getting a range of 215k to 350k, and as you've said, some of those can have a huge negotiation really really confusing. anyways, thanks for the response Sir GTi, really appreciate it.
    You may be able to find one for 250k😊though kapag 200k medyo malabo na. Kung nagtitipid, pwede tingnan ang Lynx GSi or Ghia M/T. No slouch performance wise, and has almost all of the positive attributes of the Lynx RS.

    With pure, rush hour, bumper to bumper city driving, I wouldn't expect 10km/L from a 1.6M/T. Probably 8-9. Though if there is highway driving included, and you keep a light foot, consumption may still decrease.

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    *Naigi - in case you're interested, a fellow member of the Nissanbayan FB group is selling his Nissan Sentra GS 2007 (1.6L AT, TOTL model) for 198k, firm price already. You can contact him at 09155647126.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naigi View Post
    Most likely I would go that route. MODS! But can I get a 2004 or 2005 civic with 200k budget? Or just a face lifted 2001 to 2003 models? And 1 more thing. Base on what I have searched. Is the vti (vtec3 I think) is more fuel efficient than the lxi variant?
    You will be hard-pressed to get a Civic ES at that price, even with the pre-facelift 2001-2003 models. Maybe something 250k-300k for the 2004-2005 models, as Civics are priced high on the resale market. The Altis of the same era will also be priced about the same.

    For 200k, your best option for a reliable car with decent FC will be the "Lovelife" Corolla (1998-2002). Maybe you can find a Lancer Cedia also, but some inputs here say they are not as fuel efficient. If you can get a Lynx RS for less than 250k, it will be just fine plus the smiles it will bring when you rev that 2.0L engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    You will be hard-pressed to get a Civic ES at that price, even with the pre-facelift 2001-2003 models. Maybe something 250k-300k for the 2004-2005 models, as Civics are priced high on the resale market. The Altis of the same era will also be priced about the same.

    For 200k, your best option for a reliable car with decent FC will be the "Lovelife" Corolla (1998-2002). Maybe you can find a Lancer Cedia also, but some inputs here say they are not as fuel efficient. If you can get a Lynx RS for less than 250k, it will be just fine plus the smiles it will bring when you rev that 2.0L engine.
    I guess I'll just have to be patient to get a civic. for the Lovelife, yes its a reliable car but its not as 'pogi' as the civics and RS, looks is a big factor especially for a guy who is single and in his 20's, if you know what I mean.
    for the RS, I'm really hunting down a fresh RS that is around 200k (that would be the ultimate goal). I guess patience will be a big factor here.
    Thank again for the response Sir Egan101!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    The Lynx may give you more "smiles" per litre ........ IMHO

    :D
    This is probably the best excuse to get a 2.0L engine. The 'smiles'!!!! Nice one sir lowslowbenz. :D :D :D

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