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    Hi guys,

    This will be my first time buying a used car.

    I'm considering buying either a Mazda 323 '97 familia or a Honda Accord '96.

    The things most important for me are:

    1. Low Gas consumption
    2. Parts (inexpensive and easy to find)
    3. Considerable Power
    4. Reliability (solid body and high quality engine)
    5. Relatively easier/less expensive to modify

    Any comments on the 2 cars?

    Thanks!

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    Parehong malakas sa gas yan. Corolla Bigbody ka nlang.

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    Familia.



    used to have one. as roomy as the Accord. relatively zoomy. hugs the curves.

    get a manual tranny. 1.6 GLX or Mazdaspeed versions if you're lucky.

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    thanks man. Leaning towards the familia rin e. A lot say that it is a little more powerful than other cars of its class. Is there a year model I should aim for? 95-99?

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    Quote Originally Posted by projectlevity View Post
    Hi guys,

    This will be my first time buying a used car.

    I'm considering buying either a Mazda 323 '97 familia or a Honda Accord '96.

    The things most important for me are:

    1. Low Gas consumption
    2. Parts (inexpensive and easy to find)
    3. Considerable Power
    4. Reliability (solid body and high quality engine)
    5. Relatively easier/less expensive to modify

    Any comments on the 2 cars?

    Thanks!


    Quote Originally Posted by ax30g View Post
    Parehong malakas sa gas yan. Corolla Bigbody ka nlang.
    - i think sir ax30g is right pero baka po mas malakas sa gas ung accord. i'm not sure though.

    for modifications, it will probably depend na po sa inyo. I really dont know about their parts, but probably parts for both are easy to find na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ax30g View Post
    Parehong malakas sa gas yan. Corolla Bigbody ka nlang.
    Oo bro, nalaman ko rin na medyo malakas rin daw sa gas ang familia for a 1.6. Accord understood na malakas sa gas.

    Ang familia ba may carburetor type at may efi type? from 97 model pataas ata naka efi na, tama ba?

    salamat salamat

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    Quote Originally Posted by projectlevity View Post
    Ang familia ba may carburetor type at may efi type? from 97 model pataas ata naka efi na, tama ba?
    The 1.6 models and above EFI na sila, except the base LX model na nila back in 1998 which is carburetor

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    eto pa din ako ;)

    Mazdaspeed Familia

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    Quote Originally Posted by myk384 View Post
    The 1.6 models and above EFI na sila, except the base LX model na nila back in 1998 which is carburetor
    Salamat! This helps man thanks thanks

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    This is the mazda 323 familia (BH-body) came out 96, initially with the topline variant GLX. Come '97, Value leader GLi and sporty Mazdaspeed variant followed. Both available in MT and AT (except Mazdaspeed).
    this is known to followers locally as gen 2. box type is gen 1. gen 2 is available from 96-99. but 99 models are leftover units only. gen 2.5 (the facelifted model) started rolling off showrooms as early as 98.




    going back to gen2: 1.6L EFI 16V 'B6' engine.
    1.6 GLi- 1.6L engine, all power, 14" mags, black bumpers.
    1.6 GLX- adds fogs, ABS, 60/40 seats, rear center armrest, center console, rear defogger, push type AC mode
    Mazdaspeed (im not sure if it is based on the GLi as what MTP says, but most that im seeing seems based on the GLX)- adds Aspec bodykits, strut tower brace, MS steering wheel, white faced gauge, rear wing, 15" MS rims, eibach springs and MS shocks, this is more than just for show.



    gen2.5

    facelifted model
    the facelift is more than those of other makers of same era. this one adds airbag on top models, revised the front and rear fascia heavily, some engine bits also differ. the dashboard is all new (lost dual glove box though). gauge panel gains an LCD odo too. side mirrors are also new (shared with the ford lynx).

    model arrangement are now as follows:
    1.3GL- all power, decontented interior, no center console, no rear headrest, vinyl upholstery. black bumpers and side mirrors 1.3L 16v carb engine
    1.6GLi- plus 1.6L engine, rear headrest, cloth upholstery, body colored exterior panels that were black on the GL.
    1.6GLXi- plus 60/40 with rear center armrest, ABS, driver's airbag, center console, rear defogger, foglamps, 4w disc brakes, push type AC mode (not auto climate though). 1.6L models are still avail in manual and matic form. Mazdaspeed models were discontinued. gen2.5 were available 98-late2000s.



    323F is also available. hatchback model which is same spec as GLX gen1. were sold from 96-99 on limited numbers only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ax30g View Post
    Parehong malakas sa gas yan. Corolla Bigbody ka nlang.
    +1 . big body ka nalang. o kaya honda civic vti :naughty2:

    . malakas daw sa Gas ng accord... tsaka medyu matanda na ito. kaya medyo laklak na sa Gas. :sweat:

    kung kaya naman ng budget. 2001 pataas na kuhanin mo sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrn29 View Post
    +1 . big body ka nalang. o kaya honda civic vti :naughty2:

    . malakas daw sa Gas ng accord... tsaka medyu matanda na ito. kaya medyo laklak na sa Gas. :sweat:

    kung kaya naman ng budget. 2001 pataas na kuhanin mo sir
    Salamat sa advice tol. Based sa mga nakikita kong prices kasi, medyo malayo pa agwat sa presyo nang honda vti sa familia at sa accord e. So dito ako sa dalawang oto na to namimili. other than a honda esi and corolla big body, meron pa ba ibang fair choice with a similar price range ng accord at familia?

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    Magkano po ang budget niyo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    Magkano po ang budget niyo?
    Trying to limit the budget to 170K bro. Mas mababa price, mas ok sana. If the car is well worth it na a little over 170K, why not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by projectlevity View Post
    Hi guys,

    This will be my first time buying a used car.

    I'm considering buying either a Mazda 323 '97 familia or a Honda Accord '96.

    The things most important for me are:

    1. Low Gas consumption
    2. Parts (inexpensive and easy to find)
    3. Considerable Power
    4. Reliability (solid body and high quality engine)
    5. Relatively easier/less expensive to modify

    Any comments on the 2 cars?

    Thanks!
    Malakas humigop ang Familia. Might as well level up and get the Accord. Best variant IMHO would be the 2.2VTEC M/T. That should be the thriftiest and fastest among all the variants. Ride quality is still up there among the best in the midsize sedan class, even with current models included. Engine performance and handling are great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Malakas humigop ang Familia. Might as well level up and get the Accord. Best variant IMHO would be the 2.2VTEC M/T. That should be the thriftiest and fastest among all the variants. Ride quality is still up there among the best in the midsize sedan class, even with current models included. Engine performance and handling are great.
    Sa wakas an accord contender! The best accord I see (at least for my budget) is the 98 models and up pero magkalayo sila talaga nang market value sa 97 and below, tama ba?

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    I'd suggest for you not to take cars that are too run down. You don't know if the problems would continue to come out one after the other, and you'll be having a bottomless money pit.

    As for Accord resale, '97 and '98 models are not really very far apart. I say get the newest, best conditioned manual that your budget allows. Here are some: 1998 Honda Accord | Buy and sell online NCR | Ayosdito.ph

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    I still root for the Familia. Ownership is where the Accord (which I also like, dont get me wrong) and Familia will differ.

    1.) Parts will always be more expensive on the Accord. Try scouting for brake pads, timing belts, PS pumps, shocks etc. You will see the difference.
    2.) Registration. 1.6L below have cheaper registration cost than that of 2.0L-up.
    3.) Gas consumption. I know that the Accord may be one of the thriftiest 90s mid sizer. But for sure, it will consume greater fuel than the Familia. The Familia on my experience could get as high as 8km/l city. Average of like, 7km/l on fairly zoomy drive but mine's a matic. Of course, if you're unit is a manual and at optimum engine efficiency (read: well maintained :D), I think it can topple the Accord at the pump.
    4.) A compact car, still has better resale, surplus parts availability etc.
    5.) Since it is a project car, the Mazdaspeed version parts is easily available. MTP, may also be of big help with that.

    btw, before I bought my then Familia, I was choosing between that and an Accord too. ;)
    Goodluck.

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    I agree with the points raised above. But it all still depends on personal preferences and priorities. Most definitely, the Accord would be more costly to maintain as compared to a compact sedan. But the level of refinement, quality and stability is very different as well. If I were looking for a nice, efficient compact, I would most definitely not look into the Familia, which is not known for fuel efficiency. A B14 Sentra or Lynx 1.6M/T (rebadged Familia, but one generation newer) would be my choices.

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