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    Hi guys, I'm from Cebu and quite a newbie searching for my 1st 2nd hand car. Planning to buy it 2nd hand since ayaw ko mag financing for brand new. Budget is 400k but can stretch it a bit.

    Will be using the car on fri-mon since nagrerent naman ako near my office. Gusto ko lang talaga bumili kasi hassle mag commute on mon morning and fri night.

    Here are my top priorities
    1. Driving dynamics
    2. Maintenance and parts
    3. Fuel consumption
    4. Comfort (yung tipong mabilis lumamig ang cabin kahit tanghali)

    Here are my picks naman and estimated price (no particular order). Shortlist ko po ito upon reading many reviews and posts here.
    1. 2012 civic exi - 500k
    2. 2011 civic fd 1.8s - 400k
    3. 2008 mazda 3 2.0 - 350k
    4. 2008 camry 2.4v - 400k
    5. 2008 crv 2.4 - 450k
    6. 2013 accent 1.6 crdi - 500k
    7. 2011 tucson crdi - 500k

    Thanks in advance po.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soul987 View Post
    Hi guys, I'm from Cebu and quite a newbie searching for my 1st 2nd hand car. Planning to buy it 2nd hand since ayaw ko mag financing for brand new. Budget is 400k but can stretch it a bit.

    Will be using the car on fri-mon since nagrerent naman ako near my office. Gusto ko lang talaga bumili kasi hassle mag commute on mon morning and fri night.

    Here are my top priorities
    1. Driving dynamics
    2. Maintenance and parts
    3. Fuel consumption
    4. Comfort (yung tipong mabilis lumamig ang cabin kahit tanghali)

    Here are my picks naman and estimated price (no particular order). Shortlist ko po ito upon reading many reviews and posts here.
    1. 2012 civic exi - 500k
    2. 2011 civic fd 1.8s - 400k
    3. 2008 mazda 3 2.0 - 350k
    4. 2008 camry 2.4v - 400k
    5. 2008 crv 2.4 - 450k
    6. 2013 accent 1.6 crdi - 500k
    7. 2011 tucson crdi - 500k

    Thanks in advance po.
    Syempre kung ako, mataas at diesel. Hehe~ Most definitely Tucson CRDi among your choices. Though pwede rin yung '06-09 na Santa Fe (which we have) if having 7 seats appeals to you. At this time of rising fuel prices, and that huge P12/L difference between gas and diesel, this is definitely the prudent way to go.

    If you don't mind sacrificing a bit of class and driving dynamics, then the Accent CRDi is the thriftiest of the lot. Performance is not one of the things you'd be sacrificing either, since it has more torque than all of your other choices save the Tucson.

    If fuel cost is not a big factor, ok din ang CRV. I've briefly driven one and it is very comfortable and powerful. IMHO interior quality is one step above the Hyundai, and it feels like driving an Accord 2.4 (which we also have, 2.4 2005 model). Yun nga lang, 2.4 na 4x4 pa so don't expect it to be thrifty. Perhaps the 2.0 if that is a concern. With regards to our experience with the Accord though, Honda's are very reliable. Its been in the family since brand new and was my lolo's daily driver till he passed away almost 2 years ago. Pretty much all repairs done on it we're only consumables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Syempre kung ako, mataas at diesel. Hehe~ Most definitely Tucson CRDi among your choices. Though pwede rin yung '06-09 na Santa Fe (which we have) if having 7 seats appeals to you. At this time of rising fuel prices, and that huge P12/L difference between gas and diesel, this is definitely the prudent way to go.

    If you don't mind sacrificing a bit of class and driving dynamics, then the Accent CRDi is the thriftiest of the lot. Performance is not one of the things you'd be sacrificing either, since it has more torque than all of your other choices save the Tucson.

    If fuel cost is not a big factor, ok din ang CRV. I've briefly driven one and it is very comfortable and powerful. IMHO interior quality is one step above the Hyundai, and it feels like driving an Accord 2.4 (which we also have, 2.4 2005 model). Yun nga lang, 2.4 na 4x4 pa so don't expect it to be thrifty. Perhaps the 2.0 if that is a concern. With regards to our experience with the Accord though, Honda's are very reliable. Its been in the family since brand new and was my lolo's daily driver till he passed away almost 2 years ago. Pretty much all repairs done on it we're only consumables.

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    Thanks sa reply sir. I'm actually considering the tucson and sta fe na pasok sa budget. Pero sa nabasa ko didto medjo mahal daw maintenance pag korean tsaka mas safe rin kung yung mga japs ang kunin especially kung more than 5 years na yung vehicle. Plan ko kasi i keep yung car for 10 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by soul987 View Post
    Thanks sa reply sir. I'm actually considering the tucson and sta fe na pasok sa budget. Pero sa nabasa ko didto medjo mahal daw maintenance pag korean tsaka mas safe rin kung yung mga japs ang kunin especially kung more than 5 years na yung vehicle. Plan ko kasi i keep yung car for 10 years
    If you want to keep the car for another 10 years, I would suggest you get either the CRV, Camry, or Civic. Just look at our streets, you will most likely see 20-year-old CRVs, Civics, and Camrys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    If you want to keep the car for another 10 years, I would suggest you get either the CRV, Camry, or Civic. Just look at our streets, you will most likely see 20-year-old CRVs, Civics, and Camrys.
    Thanks sir, so to have a shortlist:

    1. Civic fb exi
    2. Civic fd 1.8/2.0 (facelifted)
    3. Camry 2.4v
    4. 3rd Gen CRV 2.0/2.4

    What could be the best value for money in terms of my requirements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soul987 View Post
    Thanks sa reply sir. I'm actually considering the tucson and sta fe na pasok sa budget. Pero sa nabasa ko didto medjo mahal daw maintenance pag korean tsaka mas safe rin kung yung mga japs ang kunin especially kung more than 5 years na yung vehicle. Plan ko kasi i keep yung car for 10 years
    IMHO hindi naman mas mahal. The Koreans actually have the upper hand in ride comfort, handling and crash ratings. Though generally hindi kasing tibay ang piyesa (mostly suspension). However, similar-era Japanese diesels are much more expensive.

    The Jap cars you mentioned are mostly very reliable, and will definitely last long with little issues. You just have to shell out more for the fuel cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    IMHO hindi naman mas mahal. The Koreans actually have the upper hand in ride comfort, handling and crash ratings. Though generally hindi kasing tibay ang piyesa (mostly suspension). However, similar-era Japanese diesels are much more expensive.

    The Jap cars you mentioned are mostly very reliable, and will definitely last long with little issues. You just have to shell out more for the fuel cost.

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    can you have an estimate FC for the Civic 1.8/2.0, CRV 2.0/2.4, and Camry 2.4? All in a/t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soul987 View Post
    can you have an estimate FC for the Civic 1.8/2.0, CRV 2.0/2.4, and Camry 2.4? All in a/t.
    Gasoline engine fuel consumption tends to vary a lot depending on traffic conditions, unlike diesels which don't fluctuate as much. In general, city driving FC for 2.4's with automatics range from 5-7km/L, depending on traffic conditions. Double digits on the highway is not uncommon. In most cases, 2.0's are usually only marginally better than their 2.4 brothers, so FC would be thereabouts as well. In the CRV's case though, the 2.0 also has a significant weight advantage due to the lack of AWD. Even bigger advantage if you get the manual variant.

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    I highly doubt that the X-Trail is capable of 8-9 km/L in city driving, even if it is the base 2.0 4x2. 8-9 in city driving is typically expected of 1.5L subcompacts.

    If you do lots of highway driving though, the X-Trail may be the better choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    I highly doubt that the X-Trail is capable of 8-9 km/L in city driving, even if it is the base 2.0 4x2. 8-9 in city driving is typically expected of 1.5L subcompacts.

    If you do lots of highway driving though, the X-Trail may be the better choice.

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    A CUV with a 2.0L or 2.5L engine can achieve 8-9 km/L in city routes if the traffic is so light, like Metro Manila in the morning of a Pacman fight or maybe in the early morning.

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    Things to consider:

    Maintenance costs
    Fuel costs
    Annual registration renewal
    Insurance




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    Quote Originally Posted by SpinCycle View Post
    Things to consider:
    Maintenance costs
    Fuel costs
    Annual registration renewal
    Insurance


    Add to that ... unexpected repair costs ... parking fees ... car wash fees ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by soul987 View Post
    Hi guys, I'm from Cebu and quite a newbie searching for my 1st 2nd hand car. Planning to buy it 2nd hand since ayaw ko mag financing for brand new. Budget is 400k but can stretch it a bit.

    Will be using the car on fri-mon since nagrerent naman ako near my office. Gusto ko lang talaga bumili kasi hassle mag commute on mon morning and fri night.

    Here are my top priorities
    1. Driving dynamics
    2. Maintenance and parts
    3. Fuel consumption
    4. Comfort (yung tipong mabilis lumamig ang cabin kahit tanghali)

    Here are my picks naman and estimated price (no particular order). Shortlist ko po ito upon reading many reviews and posts here.
    1. 2012 civic exi - 500k
    2. 2011 civic fd 1.8s - 400k
    3. 2008 mazda 3 2.0 - 350k
    4. 2008 camry 2.4v - 400k
    5. 2008 crv 2.4 - 450k
    6. 2013 accent 1.6 crdi - 500k
    7. 2011 tucson crdi - 500k

    Thanks in advance po.


    go for 6! pag city driving

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    Quote Originally Posted by soul987 View Post
    Hi guys, I'm from Cebu and quite a newbie searching for my 1st 2nd hand car. Planning to buy it 2nd hand since ayaw ko mag financing for brand new. Budget is 400k but can stretch it a bit.

    Will be using the car on fri-mon since nagrerent naman ako near my office. Gusto ko lang talaga bumili kasi hassle mag commute on mon morning and fri night.

    Here are my top priorities
    1. Driving dynamics
    2. Maintenance and parts
    3. Fuel consumption
    4. Comfort (yung tipong mabilis lumamig ang cabin kahit tanghali)

    Here are my picks naman and estimated price (no particular order). Shortlist ko po ito upon reading many reviews and posts here.
    1. 2012 civic exi - 500k
    2. 2011 civic fd 1.8s - 400k
    3. 2008 mazda 3 2.0 - 350k
    4. 2008 camry 2.4v - 400k
    5. 2008 crv 2.4 - 450k
    6. 2013 accent 1.6 crdi - 500k
    7. 2011 tucson crdi - 500k

    Thanks in advance po.

    Hello! As for fuel consumption, you can go for Hyundai Accent Diesel! Super tipid talaga lalo kung MT!

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    May FB ako before. Mas refined kaysa FD - interior is more subdued and ride is more comfortable. Pero boring handling. Tama comment ni Egan - FB Civic closer to an Altis than FD Civic.

    So objectively the FB is not a bad car, just not in line with typical sporty mantra of the Civic lineup. FC Civic combines both the good handling of the FD and the refinement of the FB.

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    Given na may 450K budget (max) and a separate 50k budget for repair, Civic FB or 11th Gen Altis both in A/T?

    Priorities:
    1. Comfort
    2 Reliability ng suspension (will be use mostly sa provincial roads)
    3. Aircon
    4. Fuel consumption

    Kung makaka kuha ako, planning to keep the car for the next 5 to 8 years (max) sana.

    TIA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by akosijhay View Post
    Given na may 450K budget (max) and a separate 50k budget for repair, Civic FB or 11th Gen Altis both in A/T?

    Priorities:
    1. Comfort
    2 Reliability ng suspension (will be use mostly sa provincial roads)
    3. Aircon
    4. Fuel consumption

    Kung makaka kuha ako, planning to keep the car for the next 5 to 8 years (max) sana.

    TIA!
    Ganyan nalang pala presyuhan ng Altis na 11th gen? ngayon ko lang nakita sa marketplace

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarzegetakizerd View Post
    Ganyan nalang pala presyuhan ng Altis na 11th gen? ngayon ko lang nakita sa marketplace
    Yes sir. May pailan ilan na nag o-offer between 460-490k usually 2014/2015 models. Then, subukan ko tawaran kung ibibigay ng 450k once na decided na ko mag Altis.

    Hirap kasi sa marketplace, may biglang susulpot na Civic FB na naka post kahit Altis ang sine-search ko kaya nahihirapan ako mag decide. Gusto ko din kasi porma ng FB kahit sinasabe ng iba boring daw tignan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akosijhay View Post
    Yes sir. May pailan ilan na nag o-offer between 460-490k usually 2014/2015 models. Then, subukan ko tawaran kung ibibigay ng 450k once na decided na ko mag Altis.

    Hirap kasi sa marketplace, may biglang susulpot na Civic FB na naka post kahit Altis ang sine-search ko kaya nahihirapan ako mag decide. Gusto ko din kasi porma ng FB kahit sinasabe ng iba boring daw tignan.
    The Civic FB they say is like an Altis so the Altis is a boring car too. Both may not be as sporty as the Civic FD but they are still good compact cars. Most drivers are not going to drive their cars to the limit so the Civic FB will be more than enough for their daily needs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by akosijhay View Post
    Yes sir. May pailan ilan na nag o-offer between 460-490k usually 2014/2015 models. Then, subukan ko tawaran kung ibibigay ng 450k once na decided na ko mag Altis.

    Hirap kasi sa marketplace, may biglang susulpot na Civic FB na naka post kahit Altis ang sine-search ko kaya nahihirapan ako mag decide. Gusto ko din kasi porma ng FB kahit sinasabe ng iba boring daw tignan.
    I had both the 11th gen Altis and FB Civic. 11th gen Altis ako - more space, more agile, better ride.





    But the FB Civic isn't far behind - so if you subjectively like the FB Civic more, then go for it. Get the Japan-made EXi that comes with Bluetooth, push-button ignition, reverse camera, among other features that the Thai models don't have.

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