Civic FD 1.8V 2011 vs Accord 3.5 V6 2008

[geraldharrism]

Manghihingi sana expertise nyo. May nakikipagswap kasi sa civic fd 2011 1.8v ko with 50k mileage. Ang ka swap sir 2008 accord 3.5 v6 with 60k mileage. Both are casa maintained. Gusto nya sir dagdag lang ako 70k cash. Is it a good offer?
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[dr. d]

you want to get rid of your gas-average 1.8 civic, for a gas-guzzling (daw) 3.5 accord that's three years older than yours, and with an additional 10K km on the odometer?
and you have to give him an additional 70K ?

so, what is the fair market value of that accord, and what is the fair market value of your civic ?

and lastly, as archer below asks, "why do you want to do that?" what makes the accord so... attractive?

[geraldharrism]

you want to get rid of your gas-average 1.8 civic, for a gas-guzzling (daw) 3.5 accord that's three years older than yours, and with an additional 10K km on the odometer?
and you have to give him an additional 70K ?

so, what is the fair market value of that accord, and what is the fair market value of your civic ?

and lastly, as archer below asks, "why do you want to do that?" what makes the accord so... attractive?

I'm not familiar with an accord except for the power it offers. Thanks for the inputs.

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[dr. d]

I'm not familiar with an accord except for the power it offers. Thanks for the inputs.

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i guess what i mean is, compared to your civic, that accord is an expensive car to use and maintain. if it does not have something really important to offer you, i would recommend you stick to your current ride.
i once had a car that drove really nice, but it gargled gas. i gave it up after a few years, in favor of a not-as-nice-to-drive car, but didn't gargle gas.
good luck, sir.

[Archerfish]

3.5 L engine... I wonder how much fuel does it consume? And to think that it is an older model compared to what you have, that you have to pay for it.

If there's something that you want in that particular model that you can't get from your car, then perhaps you can go for it. I mean, something rare that is installed that you cannot simply buy.

[geraldharrism]

3.5 L engine... I wonder how much fuel does it consume? And to think that it is an older model compared to what you have, that you have to pay for it.

If there's something that you want in that particular model that you can't get from your car, then perhaps you can go for it. I mean, something rare that is installed that you cannot simply buy.

Good points. Thanks.

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[mrstealyourgirl]

That 270hp 3.5 V6 and the midsize riding comfort must be really tempting. Kung kaya mo yung fuel consumption ng V6, then why not?
Pero research ka muna about sa common problems ng 8th gen Accord V6. Baka sumakit lang ulo mo pag ikaw na may-ari. As far as I know, common problem yung “Variable Cylinder” something niyan.


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[geraldharrism]

That 270hp 3.5 V6 and the midsize riding comfort must be really tempting. Kung kaya mo yung fuel consumption ng V6, then why not?
Pero research ka muna about sa common problems ng 8th gen Accord V6. Baka sumakit lang ulo mo pag ikaw na may-ari. As far as I know, common problem yung “Variable Cylinder” something niyan.


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[EQAddict]

That engine probably does not make 270 hp anymore. Age does that to engines.

And have you felt 270 hp on such a heavy car? Its NOT going to feel that fast if that is what you are expecting. Sure it will hit 230kmh easily but its not going to pin you in your seat when you floor it. Old transmission and long gears......

That accord was meant to be a long distance cruiser.. not a sports sedan. And because its heavy and wide...you wont be able to floor it much often in the city.


Gas consumption is easily 4km per liter. You will be lucky with 5 km per liter.


I'd avoid this if i were you.

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[Archerfish]

That engine probably does not make 270 hp anymore. Age does that to engines.

And have you felt 270 hp on such a heavy car? Its NOT going to feel that fast if that is what you are expecting. Sure it will hit 230kmh easily but its not going to pin you in your seat when you floor it. Old transmission and long gears......

That accord was meant to be a long distance cruiser.. not a sports sedan. And because its heavy and wide...you wont be able to floor it much often in the city.


Gas consumption is easily 4km per liter. You will be lucky with 5 km per liter.


I'd avoid this if i were you.

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I totally agree on this. So I'd rather drive "feeling fast" than drive fast. No, I don't want those annoying noisy cars so I'm not referring to those loud exhaust. I have ever been annoyed with those motorcycles​ and owner type jeeps that can wake up the entire neighborhood back when I was a kid until now.

Since you mentioned that you are not familiar with the Accord, I think it would be better if you stay away from it. Again, unless there is something rare that you can get from that car.

[Egan101]

Don't ask me. I'd take that 8th gen Accord anytime over the Civic FD. Big the 8th gen Accord may be but it handles well for its size, even better than most compacts. It is also quicker and faster than most compacts and midsize cars. The Accord is the sportiest sedan Honda offers locally (except for the new Civic Type R) and it is among the best sedans in the world. No Honda platform received more recognition than the multiple generations of the Accord (30 times in Car and Driver's 10Best).

The 8th gen is the last Accord with the hydraulic power steering and double wishbone front suspension. It is also the biggest generation of the Accord, near full size sedan dimensions already. It sits low on the ground and rides firmer than a Civic. However, it got one spacious interior.

Fuel consumption will be a pain in the *$$ if you use it as a daily car. If used on weekend family outings, it will be one great ride. Some J35 V6 engines did have problems with its VCM so you need to check it out. VCM allows the engine to fire up only 3 cylinders of its 6 cylinders when driven at light loads (city driving, low rpm). Also, make sure the power steering is in good condition. Honda's hydraulic power steering is a pain to repair if it was not taken cared of properly (Honda uses its own specific PS fluid).

If you're sure to get into midsize cars, be ready to spend a bit as it is not the usual compact car but the rewards for comfort and power is one good trade-off for some select people.

[Walter]

Would also prefer a midsize sedan ... but at the right price ... most likely not the 3.5 engine of either the Honda Accord or Toyota Camry ... 2.4 liter engine will be sufficient ...

Straight swap maybe agree but still ... that 3.5 engine with VCM will be a pain to maintain ...

2008 Honda Accords are about 400-450T right now ... which is about same value as a 2011 Honda Civic ...

[Egan101]

Would also prefer a midsize sedan ... but at the right price ... most likely not the 3.5 engine of either the Honda Accord or Toyota Camry ... 2.4 liter engine will be sufficient ...

Straight swap maybe agree but still ... that 3.5 engine with VCM will be a pain to maintain ...

Yep, the Accord with the K24 engine will be just fine, the same level of comfort as the V6 model but still offers the nimbleness and handling of the platform.

The J35 V6 engine will be fine if you don't run into VCM issues. The only issue with it is if you can deal with its fuel-sipping habits.

[geraldharrism]

Don't ask me. I'd take that 8th gen Accord anytime over the Civic FD. Big the 8th gen Accord may be but it handles well for its size, even better than most compacts. It is also quicker and faster than most compacts and midsize cars. The Accord is the sportiest sedan Honda offers locally (except for the new Civic Type R) and it is among the best sedans in the world. No Honda platform received more recognition than the multiple generations of the Accord (30 times in Car and Driver's 10Best).

The 8th gen is the last Accord with the hydraulic power steering and double wishbone front suspension. It is also the biggest generation of the Accord, near full size sedan dimensions already. It sits low on the ground and rides firmer than a Civic. However, it got one spacious interior.

Fuel consumption will be a pain in the *$$ if you use it as a daily car. If used on weekend family outings, it will be one great ride. Some J35 V6 engines did have problems with its VCM so you need to check it out. VCM allows the engine to fire up only 3 cylinders of its 6 cylinders when driven at light loads (city driving, low rpm). Also, make sure the power steering is in good condition. Honda's hydraulic power steering is a pain to repair if it was not taken cared of properly (Honda uses its own specific PS fluid).

If you're sure to get into midsize cars, be ready to spend a bit as it is not the usual compact car but the rewards for comfort and power is one good trade-off for some select people.

Very thorough. Appreciated sir.

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[geraldharrism]

Took the Accord over the fd. And am so happy I did. The power and comfort. Even upgraded the headunit to an android 10.1. Hasn't given me major problem aside from the usual wear and tear parts. Stay safe guys.

[geraldharrism]

I totally agree on this. So I'd rather drive "feeling fast" than drive fast. No, I don't want those annoying noisy cars so I'm not referring to those loud exhaust. I have ever been annoyed with those motorcycles​ and owner type jeeps that can wake up the entire neighborhood back when I was a kid until now.

Since you mentioned that you are not familiar with the Accord, I think it would be better if you stay away from it. Again, unless there is something rare that you can get from that car.

On point. Thanks.

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[geraldharrism]

That engine probably does not make 270 hp anymore. Age does that to engines.

And have you felt 270 hp on such a heavy car? Its NOT going to feel that fast if that is what you are expecting. Sure it will hit 230kmh easily but its not going to pin you in your seat when you floor it. Old transmission and long gears......

That accord was meant to be a long distance cruiser.. not a sports sedan. And because its heavy and wide...you wont be able to floor it much often in the city.


Gas consumption is easily 4km per liter. You will be lucky with 5 km per liter.


I'd avoid this if i were you.

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Helpful tips. Thank you sir.

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[sean-archer]

Drive it. Feel it. So you can decide.

If you ask me, I'd keep the fd.

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[papi smith]

Good feedback after 2 years of ownership!

[Moncalibz]

Manghihingi sana expertise nyo. May nakikipagswap kasi sa civic fd 2011 1.8v ko with 50k mileage. Ang ka swap sir 2008 accord 3.5 v6 with 60k mileage. Both are casa maintained. Gusto nya sir dagdag lang ako 70k cash. Is it a good offer?
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“Bossing, check mo kaya Google re Accord fuel consumption?”