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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Hi Peeps,

    any comments on my Setup?:

    Focal Front separates 6" w/ cross over
    Kicker CompVR or VT (slimtype version of VR) in a ported box
    disable ung 6x9 speakers ko (or follow up question below)
    RF 4 channel Amplifyer to drive the separates and Sub?

    * di ko pa naaudition toh eh, pero mabayo na ba toh? and is the sound ok? boom boom na ba toh? or i'll switch pa rin my subs? (honestly nag hhesitate ako kung mag DD ako, pero i'll try to i-audition muna sa mga KAC folks)
    but basically, yan ung simpleng set up?

    question:
    1. tama ba na i-disable ko ung 6x9 ko?? or still i-upgrade ko pa rin xa? pero hindi ko na xa maddrive nung amp right?

    2. ok lng ba na may floating na 1 channel sa Amp? kc 1 sub setup lng ako..

    Thanks, comments and sugestions are accepted... hindi naman budgeted ung price, hindi naman medyo pricey, ung tamang middle range setup na xa ranging from 20-25k? Handle ko is Honda City 97

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    #2
    Why disabled the 6X9? Since you have a 4-channel amps, run with 3 channel mode and let your H.U built-in Amp driving your other two speakers.

    Example.. Your 4 channel amps
    2 channel or your amps run each speakers(front or rear)
    The other two channel of your amps(bridged) is for your subs.
    Run your other two speakers front or rear with your H.U. You could choose diff kind option by using your own design strategy.

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    #3
    hindi kailangan na maging floating yung isang channel ng amp mo. bro. bali use 2 channels for the front seps and bridge the remaining 2 channels to drive your sub. yung sa rear mo kahit yung HU na mag drive nun. IMO, mas ok parin ang DD compare sa kicker sub.

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    #4
    tama sila bro, i connect mo sa head unit mo ung 6x9 mo. ung 4ch amp mo, ung 2 dun para sa seps mo and ung 2 para sa subs mo, ibridge mo lng, hndi kc kakayanin kung 1 channel lng gagamitin mo sa subs.

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    #5
    ah ok, hehe pero as far as ung parts, ok na ung model? and also as far as sound boom boom is concerned? any comments, especially dun sa Kicker sub? may kontak ako sa KAC eh, drop by daw ako sa sat sa EB nila, para maaudition ko ung DD subs, kaso mahal eh, 7k ata ung lowest eh, tpos sumunod na dun mga around 11-12k eh.

    tpos papadeadenning pa ako, and btw, gus2 ko kc minsan patay ang ang audio, (what i mean is subs, ampli, etc.. speakers lng ang ttunog, kc minsan ksma ko lola ko eh, bka atakihin sa puso pag biglang bumayo eh, ahaha

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    #6
    Quote Originally Posted by v6dreamer View Post
    Why disabled the 6X9? Since you have a 4-channel amps, run with 3 channel mode and let your H.U built-in Amp driving your other two speakers.

    Example.. Your 4 channel amps
    2 channel or your amps run each speakers(front or rear)
    The other two channel of your amps(bridged) is for your subs.
    Run your other two speakers front or rear with your H.U. You could choose diff kind option by using your own design strategy.
    x2 To this but in the rears better to power it by the HU.

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    #7
    lol, nawla ung edit button eh:

    update ko lng specs ng project ko:
    Focal 165CA(coaxial) or 165A1?
    1pc 12" kicker CompCR or CVT or 1pc 12" DD (unknown model subwoofer)? in a ported box or? (solid bayo na gapang effect na box, any comments?)
    RF P00-4 or JBL GTO 75.4?
    additional:
    1F capacitor
    Deadening

    SPL target ko, tama na ba yang set up ko? overpower pala ung RF T8004 na ampli (tyka overpricy na rin para sa akin) konting help naman po? para mafinal decision ko na kung anu tlga setup ko, kc malapit ko na matpos ung ipon ko pra derecho na ako sa pagpapagawa ng kotse, at walang hesitations...

    btw, any suggeted shop/s? to buy and for them to install all my setup? default ko is Mickey's or Ginza

    Thanks po,

    *TooLights,

    dude help naman sa pag identify ng subs ng DD, kc pricey na sa akin ang pag umabot ng 10k sub pa lng eh, if ever kcng taas or more power kesa sa kicker CVR's

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    #8
    kay boss jefftan ok dun mgpagawa.....

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    #9
    IMO
    DD in a phat box or snailshell
    pag ported with right tuning lakas nito!

    di ata kakayanin ng 1 amp ang setup niyo sir,
    maganda siguro JBL GTO for your focals
    mono amps for your DD/kicker
    basta busugin ang sub

    kakayanin ng 1 amp pag T8004 gamit
    entry level ng DD (DD500) + Focal seps
    di overpower yan depends parin sa source kung 12v ang input
    assuming na true power output ang RF

    pero mas ok siguro ang hiwalay na amp para labas ang full potential ng sub

    alam ko sir toolights KAC sure na maraming alam sa DD yan
    correct me if im wrong ha

    .02

    ok din kay jefftan ng ACA sarap budget meals

    OT
    *sir toolights sir anung sa tingin niyo sa CRUNCH amps? parang mura siya a
    planning mag upgrade hehe

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    #10
    Since SPL target mo i would recommend DD 512, 7,400 price nito. 250 watts rms lang to but you can power it to 400 to 500 watts para mabusog. Tapos sa box phatbox or abc para bayo talaga.
    Yung Focal seps na lang kunin mo mas okay yun kaysa mag coaxial ka.
    With regards to your lola's heart, sa HU naman ma ooff mo yung sub kung sakay mo lola mo. This is what I do pag kasama ko parents ko sa kotse, usually off yung sub or mahina lang yung setting ng sub

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    #11
    X2 underated naman mga RF amps it can go alitle bit higer than 200w in bridge mode!!!

    4004
    http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/...Fosgate_400.4/

    4004(2001)
    http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/..._400.4_(2001)/

    400a4
    http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/...Fosgate_400a4/

    400x4
    http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/...Fosgate_400x4/

    browse mo nlng kung alin dito yung sayo then anjan na rin yung mga power ng amps!!!

    sa box tunning nandun naman sa manual ng DD yung sukat so you cant go wrong go ported!!! (slot port nalang para umabot budjet mo tapos tune mo ng 37)
    ddaudio.com

    go for the focals and try to wire it in 2ohms!
    Forget about the coax benta mo nlng pandagdag sa budget!!!
    ygpm!!!

    *wash: ano ba amp mo ngayon? san mo gagamitin yung crunch? seps or subs? ok din tumunog ang crunch amps!!!
    http://www.powertrip.com.ph/html/crunch.html

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    #12
    sir toolights yung friend ko kasi may kicker L7 dual 4 ohms (nagiisip pa kung bibilhin mura lang e)
    gusto ko sanang i-power ng CRUNCH since mas cheaper siya sa comparison

    anyway thanks

    plano palang naman if budget permits attack na magpapawashover pako e
    daming gastos

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    #13
    *glntVR
    dude, nakausap ko c Mickey about this, and sabi nya, ung 7,5k na sub ng DD is, hindi ganun kaganda ang tunog? ewan ko kc siguro bka mataas na ung specs ng audio nila kaya npapangitan...

    *toolLights
    dude, any comment dun sa DD512? sabi nung tga d2 sa amin, mas malakas daw ung kesa sa CompVR 12"?

    *washburn
    dude, di ko kaya RFT8004, taena 36k yan eh, ung JBL GTO 75.4 lng ung magddrive nung focal na seps pati ung bridged sub ko, hehe, or bka may masuggest pa kau na Amp? for CompVR or DD 512 + focal Seps? bridged ung sub?

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    #14
    tol crunch amps
    http://www.powertrip.com.ph/html/crunch.html
    ganto balak ko sa sa next setup ko
    kaya ipon mode ako hehe

    hirap talaga magdecide
    ako v12 + targa muna ako e para mapagaralan ang car audio

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    #15
    Quote Originally Posted by washburn View Post
    tol crunch amps
    http://www.powertrip.com.ph/html/crunch.html
    ganto balak ko sa sa next setup ko
    kaya ipon mode ako hehe

    hirap talaga magdecide
    ako v12 + targa muna ako e para mapagaralan ang car audio
    Di ko pa naAaudition yan eh, tyka ngaun ko lng narinig eh, pero pag nasatisfy ako hmm, well, bhla na, matagal pa naman ako makakaipon eh, more on body repair pa ako eh (grill, bumper/s!!, side skirts, lowering, tyka maintenance, ahehe...

    *TooLights,

    OT: dud, nag drop by ako dun sa Home Depo ngaun lng, wala namang tao eh, naghahanap ako ng mga tao eh, kau ba ung mga may RF na sticker sa likod? hiniram ko kotse ng tito ko, ung Civic na Itim na may Green na Neon sa Grills? kung napncn kaya nila un? dun ako nag parak malapit sa may Big Berts...

    May Comments pa ba sa Setup ko? scroll up po, pakitrace na lng, salamat!!

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    #16
    Add lng ako,

    For the Separates: medyo namamahalan kc ako sa Focal na Seps eh, balak ko mag Kicker Seps at 6x9 na lng, Ok ba un? or JBL na seps at 6x9? kc pag Focal na Seps, maiiwan lng ung 6x9 ko kc di kaya ng budget eh, kc frend ko, nakukha xa ng Kicker ES series Seps at 6x9 + 4 Channel V12 Amp for about 13k ata (or less than, not sure)

    Comments po? sayang ung mga Blaupunkt ko, ahuhuhu

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by mackkcam View Post
    Di ko pa naAaudition yan eh, tyka ngaun ko lng narinig eh, pero pag nasatisfy ako hmm, well, bhla na, matagal pa naman ako makakaipon eh, more on body repair pa ako eh (grill, bumper/s!!, side skirts, lowering, tyka maintenance, ahehe...

    *TooLights,

    OT: dud, nag drop by ako dun sa Home Depo ngaun lng, wala namang tao eh, naghahanap ako ng mga tao eh, kau ba ung mga may RF na sticker sa likod? hiniram ko kotse ng tito ko, ung Civic na Itim na may Green na Neon sa Grills? kung napncn kaya nila un? dun ako nag parak malapit sa may Big Berts...

    May Comments pa ba sa Setup ko? scroll up po, pakitrace na lng, salamat!!
    bro, anlayu mo pla diba nakalagay sa sketch sa ilalim g billboard ng home depo?
    BTW:focals entry level cguro nagrerange sa 100 to 120w kaya na ng 75.4 yun sa sub try mo rin audition yung crunch or hifonics mejo malaki nga diffrence sa price ng mga RF amps coz the RF amps can really shake your butts off!!!

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    #18
    * TooLightz

    Bad3p naman oh, malay ko bang dun un, wahehehe, dun sa may BBQ na grill ata dun, may mga Team din dun eh, may mga sticker ng Rockford sa rear Window?

    Papi, mas marami ka experience eh, sayang pala pag nag Focal ako na Seps eh, kkulangin kc ako ng budget pang 6x9 eh, pero nakakita ako ng All Kicker Setup, kaso nag drive lng is V12 (sabay ganun), may MacComment ka ba sa All Kicker ES (Low-End ng kicker) Setup (front Seps + CompVR or VT = Driven by RF P00-4 or Jbl GTO75.4 + Kicker 6x9 3 -way Ok na kaya yan?

    Add ko lng, ung Blaupunkt ko na nsa Front Seps, balak ko ilagay sa mismong ilalalim ng Trunk? para pag Inangat nya, medyo astig kc may Speakers pa dun? ahehe, Use nun is extra Boses pag naka Open ung Trunk? ung 6x9 na kicker and ung BP na Seps all driven lng xa ng head Unit,

    papi, need ko prof. help mo, Pm me Ym/MSN/AiM or Mobile # if able...

    KOnti na lng eh, konting Budget na lng eh, i-sacrifice ko na pang timing belt ko, aheheh, pandagdag budget din un, tutal, 79k pa naman mile-age eh, pati pang Change oil madali lng yan eh, ahahah gudluck na lng sa Project ko, wahehehe

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    #19
    Quote Originally Posted by mackkcam View Post
    * TooLightz

    Bad3p naman oh, malay ko bang dun un, wahehehe, dun sa may BBQ na grill ata dun, may mga Team din dun eh, may mga sticker ng Rockford sa rear Window?

    Papi, mas marami ka experience eh, sayang pala pag nag Focal ako na Seps eh, kkulangin kc ako ng budget pang 6x9 eh, pero nakakita ako ng All Kicker Setup, kaso nag drive lng is V12 (sabay ganun), may MacComment ka ba sa All Kicker ES (Low-End ng kicker) Setup (front Seps + CompVR or VT = Driven by RF P00-4 or Jbl GTO75.4 + Kicker 6x9 3 -way Ok na kaya yan?

    Add ko lng, ung Blaupunkt ko na nsa Front Seps, balak ko ilagay sa mismong ilalalim ng Trunk? para pag Inangat nya, medyo astig kc may Speakers pa dun? ahehe, Use nun is extra Boses pag naka Open ung Trunk? ung 6x9 na kicker and ung BP na Seps all driven lng xa ng head Unit,

    papi, need ko prof. help mo, Pm me Ym/MSN/AiM or Mobile # if able...

    KOnti na lng eh, konting Budget na lng eh, i-sacrifice ko na pang timing belt ko, aheheh, pandagdag budget din un, tutal, 79k pa naman mile-age eh, pati pang Change oil madali lng yan eh, ahahah gudluck na lng sa Project ko, wahehehe
    Sayang nga dude nandun ka na pala!!! Sige sa nov.14 may EB kami ulit,lapit ka lang huwag lang maunahan ng hiya sasamahan kita marami tayong ma-auaudition dun sa mga KAC peeps!
    secondlly di pa po ako prof. just beginning to learn pa lang just sharing lang nung mga natututunan ko sa car audio and besides this is the best way to earn friends diba!!!
    6x9 for the trunk? why not go for a pair of targas if budget constrains
    or try the crystals!!!
    ingats din sa pagbili ng mga ES daming fake na nagkalat!!! try muna this site para may reference ka!!!

    http://kotseaudioclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12788

    and dude avoid text speak baka masita tayo ng mga mods dito hehehe

    hope this helps and welcome sa car audio hobby

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    #20
    dude,

    hindi 6x9 sa trunk, ung current na nsa front Seps (6 1/2") ko, ililipat ko sa Trunk, ahehe wala lng extra Boses lng un eh, pero Ok na ba yan? budget constraints nga, ahehehe... nakapag audition ka na ba ng All JBL separates pati ung 6x9? cguro pag iisipan ko na lng is kung all Kicker Setup (Seps, 6x9, Sub + RF or JBL Ampli) or All JBL Setup (Seps, 6x9, Ampli + Kicker CompVR or VT na Sub) ok na kaya yan? what do you think? budget ko lng is cguro mga 10-15k for Seps + 6x9 + Ampli + Wiring na rin, ihihiwalay ko na lng ung budget para sa Sub, makakapag Antay pa naman ako eh, hindi ko ata kakayanin ng isang bagsak un eh, So Final Setup:

    Seps : JBL or Kicker
    6x9 : JBL or Kicker
    Sub : Kicker CompVR or VT (slimtype)
    nag double thinking pa ako sa:
    2 Ampli : 1 4 channel V12 (for Seps+6x9) + 1 RF or JBL Mono Amp (for Sub)
    or
    1 Ampli : 1 RF or JBL 4 channel Amp (2 for F. Seps + bridge ung Sub)

    Yan ok na ba yan cguro? kelangan ko na lng matignan kung alin sa Brands ang may mas magandang Quality

    *sa Nov 14.

    Cge, kita kits tau dun... bad3p naman kasi kala ko kau yun, napnta na ako dun malpit sa bigberts eh, may nakita pa nga akong Jazz na Kambal dun eh, kaso wala namang nakatambay dun, cge, hahanapin ko muna ung Home Depo na Signage

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