Opel Astra aircon

[guguly]

umilaw kasi iyong warning light sa dashboard (aircon cooling system) ng Opel Astra ko (2000 model). at the same time, nawalan ng lamig ang aircon at iyong dalawang fan sa makina (engine and aircon), naka fulltime on na. hindi na nag automatic on/off. dinala ko sa casa, sabi nag safety mode na daw ang emu, kasi na detect na may problema sa cooling system, kaya naka fulltime on ang fan. kailangan daw palitan ang cooling system including the compressor sa humahagupit na presyong P108K!!!! Syempre, hindi naman ako sira para magbayad ng ganoon so pull=out ko sasakyan. Tinakot pa nga ako indirectly kasi sabi pa sa akin, marami na daw nag pull-out na ganoon pero bumabalik din kasi nagkakaproblema. Mas lumalaki pa daw ang gastos. So, dinala ko sa ibang manggagawa ng aircon at ang findings, walang problema sa cooling system. Okay daw ang compressor and walang bara.Napapalamig nga pero sandali lang.Nagti-trip ang electrical.Ang problema daw kasi, walang kuryenteng pumupunta sa compressor kasi nga nagti-trip. Ang tingin nya, sa electronics ng car ang problema and hindi nya alam kung bakit nagti-trip. Sabi pa nga sakin, kung gusto ko daw, diretso nya ang compressor sa control (i-bypass ang emu), lalamig daw iyon kaso sabi ko wag na kasi baka delikado saka hindi rin siguradong maso-solve noon iyong pag-ilaw sa dashboard ng warning and fulltime on ng fans.I called up casa again to ask kung pwedeng iyong pinaka aircon module lang muna ang palitan nila.Ang sagot sakin, hindi daw pwede kasi dapat daw mapalamig muna ang aircon bago palitan ang module and not the other way around kasi kelangan daw programming noon,etc.. So, ano ngayon ang choice/s ko? Dillema ko kasi, baka masira yung pinaka-emu kung ipapatira ko sa labas.Ano kaya mabuting gawin?

[sulzer9]

Opel? wew ,,,,euro din magagastos mo dyan pre....auto climate control ata ung aircond system nyan.
try mo nalang muna tangalin ang neg terminal ng battery for 1 minute then balik mo,bka mareset naman.pag hindi dalhin mo nalang sa mitsu casa at pa diagnose mo lang- halos pareho din kasi air cond system ng mga mitsu japan CBU. or dikaya dalhin mo sa Denso sa makati ata un?

sensya na bopols ako sa auto climate control aircond system.don't wory maraming tulong ditong darating ,wait ka lang pre.

mga bros it's our turn,any sugestionssss??

[vinj]

IMO, the CASA could be giving you BS (That's GM Autoworld for you folks)... get first several opinions from some A/C and independent Euro specialist shops w/ the proper diagnostics before making your final decision.

[finchy18]

ang dali nman nag ka problematic ang aircon ng auto mo tol.. tapos opel pa.. tsk tsk.. kung wlang iba na talaga casa na talaga yan.. cla lang kasi marunong dyan kasi sa kanila yan.. pero masakit sa dibdib ang gastos.. kung may magaling na shop na pwde maayos yan why not?.. Gud luck!

[guguly]

ang dali nman nag ka problematic ang aircon ng auto mo tol.. tapos opel pa..

Hi-mileage use kasi ako sa sasakyan, bossing. To date, nakaka almost 140K na ako sa astra. So far, so good naman. no major problem until now and saksakan pa ng mahal kung totoo ngang cra ang cooling system. regular maintenance lang normally ang pinapagawa ko (and one time timing belt replacement) w/c is really not bad when it comes to cost.

After this incident, nagda-dalawang isip na nga ako na ibenta na ang car once matapos ko na ang problem sa aircon. kasi baka abutan pa ako ng mas matitinding sira sa mismong makina, baka patayin na talaga ako sa presyo ng pagpapagawa.

[OTEP]

Try mo muna dalhin kay Mang Mario. Baka naman may open circuit lang na nagtitrigger ng safe mode.

The Casa will be too lazy to actually trace what is causing it to trip and just suggest you replace everything.

At least kay Mang Mario (or the other recommended shops here) may fighting chance ka dahil they will try to check the cause first.

Kung hindi naman nila kaya, they will tell you. At least they tried diba.

[jasonub]

try denso makati, look for vince

[finchy18]

kaya pala tol.. sumisingil na din yan sau.. Good luck bro!

[guguly]

may narekomenda sa akin shop na gumagawa ng mga european (and some japanese) models and they have parts available for any european model daw.kung wala, pwede silang mag-import.nakausap ko na and they told me na kaya nila at a much lower cost than the casa estimate.left it there yesterday.hopefully, magawa nga ng walang problem.will update kung okay nga yung gagawa.

[caloystermx5]

may narekomenda sa akin shop na gumagawa ng mga european (and some japanese) models and they have parts available for any european model daw.kung wala, pwede silang mag-import.nakausap ko na and they told me na kaya nila at a much lower cost than the casa estimate.left it there yesterday.hopefully, magawa nga ng walang problem.will update kung okay nga yung gagawa.

guguly,

i also own an opel astra so kung ok gawa ng aircon shop/ repair shop na dinalhan mo ng kotse mo, pa post naman din sa "unofficial opel club" forum. nag post ka din ata dun dati, would appreciate if you post the details of the shop (name, location, tel number) and contact person. thanks!

[guguly]

guguly,

i also own an opel astra so kung ok gawa ng aircon shop/ repair shop na dinalhan mo ng kotse mo, pa post naman din sa "unofficial opel club" forum. nag post ka din ata dun dati, would appreciate if you post the details of the shop (name, location, tel number) and contact person. thanks!

ok.no problem.binabantayan ngayon ng driver ang paggawa.okay naman daw.i'll post an update once matapos na.

[guguly]

Sori, ngayon lang ako nakapag-update on this. nakuha ko na car last december pa kaso I made sure to test it muna before giving any feedback sa pagkakagawa.Btw, it took almost a month na magawa laht-lahat kasi mahirap daw maghagilap ng tamang parts.

Anyway, the aircon is fixed. Yung warning sa dashboard is gone and the fans are functioning properly. Pinalitan ang compressor,evaporator and isa pang part na I forgot the name. One thing I noticed lang kasi immediately after getting the car is lumakas ang gas consumption but as the weeks went by, nag-okay na. Ewan ko kung bakit ganon. All in all, inabot ng almost 60K! More than half of that was for the original compressor.90% went into parts and 10% lang halos ang labor cost. I was given the option na magpa re-bracket na lang ng panibago para daw malagyan ng mas murang compressor but I opted to get the original kaya ganon kamahal ang compressor, but still cheaper than the casa price.

Oo nga pala, isang naging problema ng pagkakagawa ng aircon is nag-safe mode ang radio. Even with the code entered, ayaw na mawala safety mode. Emailed Philips kaso sa casa lang ako ni refer, so I guess sa casa talaga ang pagawa nito.

[StraightSix]

*guguly - Try this ...

1 - Turn OFF the radio.
2 - Switch on ignition, but don't start the engine.
3 - Press [AS] before turning ON the radio, but keep it pressed for about 3 seconds until it beeps/displays [ 10 _ _ _ _ ]. See note.
4 - Press preset key [1] repeatedly until it matches the first digit of your code.
5 - Press preset key [2] repeatedly until it matches the second digit of your code.
6 - Press preset key [3] repeatedly until it matches the third digit of your code.
7 - Press preset key [4] repeatedly until it matches the fourth digit of your code.
8 - Make sure the code displayed is correct (ex: [ 10 c o d e ]).
9 - Press [AS] again for about 3 seconds, then the radio should turn ON normally.

Note that for evey number of times an incorrect code was entered, the radio will wait longer before it accepts a new attempt. Some have waited for hours. From what I've read, x10 is the maximum (someone even posted x6) then it's only a dealer that can sort it.

HTH

[guguly]

*guguly - Try this ...

1 - Turn OFF the radio.
2 - Switch on ignition, but don't start the engine.
3 - Press [AS] before turning ON the radio, but keep it pressed for about 3 seconds until it beeps/displays [ 10 _ _ _ _ ]. See note.
4 - Press preset key [1] repeatedly until it matches the first digit of your code.
5 - Press preset key [2] repeatedly until it matches the second digit of your code.
6 - Press preset key [3] repeatedly until it matches the third digit of your code.
7 - Press preset key [4] repeatedly until it matches the fourth digit of your code.
8 - Make sure the code displayed is correct (ex: [ 10 c o d e ]).
9 - Press [AS] again for about 3 seconds, then the radio should turn ON normally.

Note that for evey number of times an incorrect code was entered, the radio will wait longer before it accepts a new attempt. Some have waited for hours. From what I've read, x10 is the maximum (someone even posted x6) then it's only a dealer that can sort it.

HTH

Thanks for the reply, but did this procedure already. Upon pressing AS, wala na lumalabas, SAFE lang.