dear mods....

[TsuperDriver]

in some heated arguments that i just read, our mods come into picture, sadly thay dont sometimes act like how a real moderator should act IMO. they become biase, unfair and would stick to their friend's side, or even end ganging up on a person. sana medyo ingat lang sa mga binibitawan niyong salita sa thread, baka alang araw mawalan ng respeto mga tsikoteers. kung sarcastic or rude man sa tingin nyo mga ibang posts, kayo and unang dapat maka-handle non at hindi nyo palalakihin pa.

dont take this wrong guys, but the image of this Tsikot.com is all about you moderators, specially sir Mazdamazda.

thank you.


" Likewise the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. "

James 3:5

[mazdamazda]

This is about the VeraCruz thread right? IMO - you are only saying that as you don't know the whole story... we have a valid reason to do what we are doing.

If the owners / administrators of this site doesn't support our decision making process, I or any other moderator should have been axed already.

[nicolodeon]

Hi TsuperDriver,

Thank you for you comments and views. BS aside, we welcome these types of threads/critiques/comments because we learn from these and it helps us in our quest for this community and for you, the members since we mods and members all believe that if is not for you, our members, then we won't have a community as successful and as big as this thread.

It's a bit diffult modulating forums - and yes, we mods do have our bad days also whereby we sometimes reply "uncharacteristically", using your term. However, I may speak for the more experienced mods here that they've seen quite a number of threads that really were just troll baiting threads or whereby the thread starter just wanted to had some fun at the expense of the community. Thefore, there natural instinct of some of the mods would be to react to those threads in which the reaction may be quite unorthodox at times.

True, friendships form here at Tsikot but I humbly say that friendships did not become factors in the past for the admins and mods to give infractions and temporary bans for some of their members who are their friends. I can personally identify the handles of those Tsikoteers who got infractions and temporary bans from their admin and mod friends here at Tsikot. However, I do agree with you that friendships should not form an invisible wall of bias for members who are "friends" of admins and moderators and I would like to thank you for pointing that out.

I'm not defending us mods. If I have made a mistake, then I'm gentleman enough to account for it and to account for any mistake that I may make. I think it goes the same for all the mods. But like what Mazdamazda had said in his previous post, members who are new to that Veracruz thread may not know the whole story since the mods have deleted some..."unacceptable" posts. Also, the mods - except myself - have been here since 2002 and if the admins/owners of this community had lost confidence in their abilities then they would have been given the boot a long time ago

Thanks for your comments, sir. This keeps us on our toes to be better mods for Tsikot.

[yebo]

this reply has nothing to do with the why and what of whatever other thread that lead to you posting this thread. i never read the thread mentioned. i'm thinking in general terms, ok.

i don't see any reason why the mods should be prohibitted from taking sides, especially when that side happen to be what tsikot stands for. if a poster is a troll then it is in fact the duty of the mods to point it out, even to the degree that they will be openly bias. most people here in tsikot are honest, and as a consequence most will tend to believe what is posted by ALL members. this is a consequent extension of the trust given to members who the community has known for a long time. however the fact is not all members are as internet savvy as the mods, who can and have the time to trace the "identity" of people who are pretending to be someone else. it is to the benefit of all legit members that the mods have this freedom to take sides.

[jedi]

tsuperdriver

thank you for your suggestions and i also understand your sentiments.

but, please do understand that in a public forum like tsikot, iba ibang klaseng tao na ang naging member dito, lalo na kung di nila alam ang true nature of tsikot forums. madami nagcreate ng thread just to brag about their stuff, they claim that they own this , they own that... they claim that they can do this and do that... anyone can do that... kaya lang mga nagppost ng ganito, people will start to ask if its too good to be true. if its real or not... lalo na kung naging sikat yung thread na yun.

ang sakin lang like the veracruz thread, the poster promised that she will post some pics, kaya syempre tinanatanong ng members kung nasaan na yung pics.

Anyway, some of our judgements as mods and admins might not be perfect... we all took the risk na kahit some of the tsikoteers will get mad based sa mga decisions na ginagawa namin for the community... pero kung di namin gagawin yun, baka hindi maging ganito ang tsikot.com ngayon.

Maraming pang colorfull threads na lumabas dito sa tsikot but moderators like mazdamazda make it to the point na mabalik sa ayos without even thinking twice na baka may magalit na ibang members sa kaniya.

Again, your suggestions are not taken for granted, and for almost 5 years we're still trying to improve.

WORLD PEACE

[Galactus]

^^^

Jedi, the OP is TsuperDriver (and not tsupermario). Baka magtampo yung latter, wala naman siyang kinalaman, hehehe.

I just read the Veracruz thread. I consider the remarks very tame and non-insulting, compared to other threads. IMO, much ado over nothing.

[FrankDrebin]

Hehehe.

Naglalaro yata ng (Super Mario Bros)Nintendo Family Computer si Jedi. B-Forward-A!

[Syuryuken]

Bwahaha bossing mali ka

[TsuperDriver]

i know there are imperfections to both mods and tsikoteers, but i hope let's be diplomatic not to provoke heated arguments, sayang yung thread. im not saying mazda2 was wrong, but he, being a moderator, should'nt be too impulsive. he can say the same things in a "more polite" way and be more of a "mediator" rather than being "biased" at times.

anyway at the end of the day, its peace in our hearts that will still reign, mabuhay Tsikot.

[VtEC]

got your point bro but in fairness naman, you cant just tolerate a member when he/she is fooling the group.it's a waste of time reading such posts when at the end of the day wala naman palang mapapala buti sana kung healthy arguments na meron kang matutunan..Yong mga cases na merong member na feeling e napapagkaisahan e, those are the members who loves to play around.

[mazdamazda]

TsuperDriver, what is impolite with my reply to LadyDriver?

I think this reply to a moderator of this forum is a bit rude & sarcastic already. You have promised for the Nth time to post a picture of your VeraCruz and he is just asking for it.

In my opinion, this is a very objective reply to her. If you check the sentence construction, the terms "rude & sarcastic" was directed to her reply and not to the person.

If you also took time to read the other posts, I was even one of the first who welcomed LadyRider to Tsikot.

As jedi & nicolodeon said, I have sent infractions & made public reprimands even to other members regardless if they are my friends or not.

[jedi]

sorry nagkamali ako hehehe... naedit ko hehee

just to add something...

maraming mga forums ngayon na dahil anonymous ang mga identity they use the forums to brag or to pretend... sa tsikot iniiwasan natin yung ganyan... if you claim that you own something lalo na kung newbie pa lang at naging very active yung thread and people start asking for some proofs, syempre dapat pakita ka ng proof kahit papano.

same thing sa mga tsikoteers na nagrereklamo ng isang company or auto shop/service dito sa forums, we always ask for proof... coz anyone can post something against anyone or any company, kung di sya imomoderate magiging circus ang tsikot forums.

^^^

Jedi, the OP is TsuperDriver (and not tsupermario). Baka magtampo yung latter, wala naman siyang kinalaman, hehehe.

I just read the Veracruz thread. I consider the remarks very tame and non-insulting, compared to other threads. IMO, much ado over nothing.

[Jun aka Pekto]

sorry nagkamali ako hehehe... naedit ko hehee

just to add something...

if you claim that you own something lalo na kung newbie pa lang at naging very active yung thread and people start asking for some proofs, syempre dapat pakita ka ng proof kahit papano.

same thing sa mga tsikoteers na nagrereklamo ng isang company or auto shop/service dito sa forums, we always ask for proof... coz anyone can post something against anyone or any company, kung di sya imomoderate magiging circus ang tsikot forums.

I'm not really interested on whether the concerned party has a Veracruz or not. But, I find it disturbing that people would start demanding proof. Pretty soon, every little thing will demand proof. Whatever happened to pure, simple trust? Me, I'm happy to take people at their word. If he/she is lying, oh well. No harm, no foul.

What if I did something in the past tense long ago? There'd be no way to prove it...........

[tsupermario]

uy na-mention ako :twak:

for the record, i'm not suffering from multiple personality disorder :tounge: :rockon:

[spongee]

hmmm wala akong kinalaman sa thread nato..pero i remember her creating her own thread first before she joined the official thread,,i think she has a bf who "owns" naman another bigtime car...i might be imagining stuffs during that time pero immediately i smelled a poser...bec i took ur words before guys something like...."u dont have class to own a hummer or escalade" to that hiphop poser before....

anyways...sana naman wag gamitin ang tsikot community para mag-attract ng attention...

peace to all....

[mazdamazda]

I'm not really interested on whether the concerned party has a Veracruz or not. But, I find it disturbing that people would start demanding proof. Pretty soon, every little thing will demand proof. Whatever happened to pure, simple trust? Me, I'm happy to take people at their word. If he/she is lying, oh well. No harm, no foul.

What if I did something in the past tense long ago? There'd be no way to prove it...........

As I remember, she volunteered to post the picture for several times. No one is forcing her to post the picture. Heck, there are several members out there who have better rides (Carrera, CLK, 5-series, Cayenne, etc.) and no one is coercing them to post their ride's picture or questioning them if that is their ride.

But for this instance, there is something different. I am not privy to post here all the details nor discuss our conclusion but as I have been telling you guys - the moderators have a valid reason on whatever action that they did.

[BlueBimmer]

bottom line, nobody likes a poser

[niky]

It's a common problem on the internet... poseurism. I don't even try to demand proof anymore, as it's a waste of time.

Daanin nalang sa EB yun. Kung hindi pala totoong ganyan ang tsikot... siyang may sagot ng tsibog... tapos!

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I was going to post in here earlier, but I didn't have anything of import to add to this back then. I'd just like to say... while we don't like poseurs and fakes... excessive "ownage" is just as bad... and I've seen the mods mete infractions on both sides of some issues in the past to keep things quiet... which is fair. Whether we're in the right or wrong, we should always stay civil.

[sequoia]

though not directly related to the topic, may i know your age sirs? TsuperDriver & Mazdamazda. if you find my Q offensive or irrelevant pls dont answer. Btw i am 44.

[boybi]

though not directly related to the topic, may i know your age sirs? TsuperDriver & Mazdamazda. if you find my Q offensive or irrelevant pls dont answer. Btw i am 44.

What's that got to do with this thread?