Are we becoming an A/T country?

**pajerokid** · June 16th, 2005 07:52 PM

Convenience-wise, you cant beat AT, But going all out in a 2.0L with MT still makes me smile.

But the ultimate for me would be a manumatic.

**cardo** · June 16th, 2005 07:54 PM

my uncle who lives in Texas for 3 decades does'nt know how to use a manual.

i'd go with A/T too... kakapagod pag long drive and traffic... last car ko was a Manual and I had so many troubles with the tranny. But nothing beats a manual if you have a beastly torquey powerful engine!!! Iba pa rin yun nakakapag burn out hehehe

**BoyFerrari** · June 16th, 2005 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by speedy

Just look at what A/T has done for F1. For gosh sakes, the damn computer even adjusts the revs to the right shift points to maximize speed and acceleration. All you have to do is step on the pedal and shift the gears on the wheel!

You cannot include a Formula One transmission for comparison in this discussion. It is in a league of its own due to its highly customized design built especially for racing.

**ghosthunter** · June 16th, 2005 08:27 PM

if the local traffic condition wasn't as bad as it is today, I would prefer a m/t... but with reality sinking in, an A/T is almost a requirement to survive daily driving in metro manila.

**mikaelrules** · June 16th, 2005 08:28 PM

Also due to the fact that F1 transmissions are not automatics (with torque converters), but are actually computer shifted manuals. The driver also has a clutch "pedal" on the steering wheel which is used for starting from a standing stop.

**BoyFerrari** · June 16th, 2005 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by mikaelrules

Also due to the fact that F1 transmissions are not automatics (with torque converters), but are actually computer shifted manuals. The driver also has a clutch "pedal" on the steering wheel which is used for starting from a standing stop.

Nadale mo batang-bata.

**pixelparadigm** · June 16th, 2005 11:12 PM

Diba sequential gearbox ang gamit sa F1? Kahit sa WRC sequential manual din, although kelangan pa rin ng clutch for take-off. I don't know where I heard this, but Renault tried to use CVT in their race cars and the result was the car was always 1 second quicker than before.

Sophisticated race transmissions doesn't have torque converters?, but the computer compensates for the engine response(parang double clutching at the speed of light during downshifting) during and after a shift has been initiated by the driver. Usually, the computer sends a signal to the driver when the engine power peaks and that's the time when to upshift optimally.

**Karding** · June 17th, 2005 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by mikaelrules

Also due to the fact that F1 transmissions are not automatics (with torque converters), but are actually computer shifted manuals. The driver also has a clutch "pedal" on the steering wheel which is used for starting from a standing stop.

I learn something new everyday.

Originally Posted by BoyFerrari

You cannot include a Formula One transmission for comparison in this discussion. It is in a league of its own due to its highly customized design built especially for racing.

Can you believe it? A hightech tranny being compared with a conventional daily driver tranny?

You two deserves a rep points!

**nugundam93** · June 17th, 2005 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by pixelparadigm

Diba sequential gearbox ang gamit sa F1? Kahit sa WRC sequential manual din, although kelangan pa rin ng clutch for take-off. I don't know where I heard this, but Renault tried to use CVT in their race cars and the result was the car was always 1 second quicker than before.

yup.

i'll try to look for that road and track issue where they featured that williams-renault f1 cvt test model.