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    #461
    nawalan ng balanse yung crane.. almost 90 degrees na yung boom kaya tumagilid dun sa counterweight side.. tapos medyo tilting pa yung road.. mukhang hindi din naka extend yung side supports nya

    sa interview kanina ng dos por dos kay RSA, sabi nya minadali daw kasi yung movement ng crane.. kaya mukhang sisihin yung kawawang crane operator..

    pero walang nabanggit kahit ano kung sino yung Project Engineer na naka assign during that time at kung may Safety Officer on site

    tingin ko hindi naman gagalaw yung crane operator ng walang nag uutos sa kanya on the ground eh..

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    #462
    pag ganyan naglilipat sa taas eh madaling-araw ginagawa tapos isasarado mo kalsada.

    masyado siga gawin ng office hours.

    heavy lifting always pag wala laman kalsada.

    hindi pa ako engineer. Im a behaviorist.

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    #463
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    pero walang nabanggit kahit ano kung sino yung Project Engineer na naka assign during that time at kung may Safety Officer on site

    tingin ko hindi naman gagalaw yung crane operator ng walang nag uutos sa kanya on the ground eh..
    Ito yung tumpak na parang hindi pinapansin ng media pero alam mo in the back of your head na alam na nila yan sa dami ng cover nila na major construction na nagkaissue. Itong sa skyway pa lang, kahit nung 2015 may OSHA na yun at always standard yung construction protocols and project engineers in charge of giving orders for the day and monitoring the Gantt Chart/Bar Chart Schedule.

    Kanina pinakita ininterview yung investigating council ng Muntinlupa, nagtaka na ako parang tikom na banggitin na may pagkukulang yung mga in charge on that segment na engineer and safety officer leads/EEI. Iwas sabihin na under investigation pa anu yung "pagkukulang". Sigurado na zarzuela na lang ito para di sabihin walang ginagawa yung LGU. Formalities for show na lang ito.

    Kawawa talaga yung crane operator din kahit na meron talaga siya direct fault in what he did to cause the accident, hindi lang siya ang may pagkukulang at may kasalanan kung bakit umabit sa ganito.

    EDIT:
    Curious tuloy ako if baguito yung engineer and safety officer(s) na nilagay or assign ni EEI to take charge sa area. Ika nga yung tipong first few days on the job pa lang kaya kapa lang sila sa sistema pero sige sige magutos na gawin niyo to... pag tinanong panu, sagot... Basta dapat tapusin ninyo or papalitan namin kayo. Anu magagawa ng worker/operator kundi sumunod na lang diba?

    Baka din EEI is already "spread too thin" with their main force kaya yung mga hindi experienced yung nakaassign, which is possible naman. Pero dapat may nagbabantay din at advice sa kanila na senior about sa protocol kung ganun. "chain of command" ika nga.

    Malabo naman foreman lang iniwan nila to take charge sa segment kaya nagkaganito siguru? EEI yan, di naman backyard na contractor lang na lumabas parang kabute.

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    #464
    may abogado yung namatay. Nagwork sa bgc so represented ng company kasi nga nabagsakan while on duty. So sa husgado yan madedemanda yang project engineer. Ayaw lang pabanggit sa media kasi mababash.

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    #465
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    may abogado yung namatay. Nagwork sa bgc so represented ng company. So sa husgado yan madedemanda yang project engineer. Ayaw lang pabanggit sa media kasi mababash.
    sinong namatay? Yung nasa adventure?

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    #466
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    pag ganyan naglilipat sa taas eh madaling-araw ginagawa tapos isasarado mo kalsada.

    masyado siga gawin ng office hours.

    heavy lifting always pag wala laman kalsada.

    hindi pa ako engineer. Im a behaviorist.
    Kasi naman po. Ang mga tao hinde mo alam kung ano gusto. Nun sinara yun service road ang daming nag reklamo bakit daw kailanga isara, ngayon nag given in sa demand at binuksan dapat naman daw isara. Ano ba talaga gusto?

    For me dapat talagang isara hanga ng matapos pero papayag pa mga tao doon?


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    cathey,

    hindi ko sure kung sino namatay pero napanuod ko sa news may abogado. Napaisip ako paano nakaafford ng lawyer eh yun pala nagwork sa bgc so represented ng kumpanya yan.


    sha,

    hindi pwede reklamo ng tao masunod sa ganyan. Dapat marunng yugn engineeer firm dapat sa decision. Eh mga basic na tao wala naman alam yan sa surroundings gravity. Ano akala ng masang-pinoy pag nagtransfer ng pre-fabricated na cemento ganyan kalaki eh parang nagkakabit ng yero hahahahah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    cathey,

    hindi ko sure kung sino namatay pero napanuod ko sa news may abogado. Napaisip ako paano nakaafford ng lawyer eh yun pala nagwork sa bgc so represented ng kumpanya yan.


    sha,

    hindi pwede reklamo ng tao masunod sa ganyan. Dapat marunng yugn engineeer firm dapat sa decision. Eh mga basic na tao wala naman alam yan sa surroundings gravity. Ano akala ng masang-pinoy pag nagtransfer ng pre-fabricated na cemento ganyan kalaki eh parang nagkakabit ng yero hahahahah.
    If he died coming to or from work, may babayaran din ang company where he works sa family (that's how it is with the 2 companies I worked for, di ko alam kung standard yan)

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    If he died coming to or from work, may babayaran din ang company where he works sa family (that's how it is with the 2 companies I worked for, di ko alam kung standard yan)

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    I remember that on a seminar when we got hired. Parang employee insurance yata yan. Ang requirement lang eh dun na aksidente sa usual way when going to or from work. Kung for example dumaan ng mall bago na accident, hindi na sya covered.

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    #470
    Northbound, traffic piles up all the way to Southwoods in the mornings & afternoons because of the bottleneck caused by the construction & the skyway entry point on the Alabang interchange bridge because of motorist occupying 2-3 lanes with the outer 1-2 trying to swerve into the first lane. Finally yesterday, SLEX patrol controlled those 2 lanes so those entering have to queue in the 1st lane. Compared to before where traffic is at a standstill at times, traffic is now moving albeit, at a slow pace but still moving. Sometimes, konting disiplina kailangan.


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