Kung may kotse dapat may paradahan ka din.

**speed unlimited** · January 12th, 2010 01:34 AM

Dati rito sa Manila kung wala kang paradahan ng sasakyan mo ibabayad mo sa City hall at bibigyan ka ng sticker para iwas recker sa kalsada kung saan nakaparada.

**frake** · January 21st, 2010 12:32 PM

Mahirap maisa-batas yan. Marami kasi sa mga kababayan natin na umaahon pa lang sa hirap or payak na pamumuhay. Halimabawa si Juan, dahil mabait nabigyan ng konting blessing from above at nakapag ipon para sa maliit na low-cost town house (yan ang norm ngayon sa mga developer) na babayaran nya for morethan 15yrs. Along the way, since mabait nga, na-bless na naman at nabiyayaan ng kotse. Kaso yung nakuha nyang bahay eh maliit lang at walang garahe. Pero meron naman enough space sa harap ng bahay nila na sa tingin nya eh hindi sya makakaabala sa mga kapit bahay nya kung dun nya ipaparada ang sasakyan nya. Wala kasi sa hinagap nya na mabibiyayaan sya ng sasakyan. So, hindi nya dapat tanggapin yung auto? eh diba masama tumanggi sa grasya?

**sgt_taga** · January 21st, 2010 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by frake

Mahirap maisa-batas yan. Marami kasi sa mga kababayan natin na umaahon pa lang sa hirap or payak na pamumuhay. Halimabawa si Juan, dahil mabait nabigyan ng konting blessing from above at nakapag ipon para sa maliit na low-cost town house (yan ang norm ngayon sa mga developer) na babayaran nya for morethan 15yrs. Along the way, since mabait nga, na-bless na naman at nabiyayaan ng kotse. Kaso yung nakuha nyang bahay eh maliit lang at walang garahe. Pero meron naman enough space sa harap ng bahay nila na sa tingin nya eh hindi sya makakaabala sa mga kapit bahay nya kung dun nya ipaparada ang sasakyan nya. Wala kasi sa hinagap nya na mabibiyayaan sya ng sasakyan. So, hindi nya dapat tanggapin yung auto? eh diba masama tumanggi sa grasya?

bro, sa tingin ko sa ganyang pagkakataon, dapat humanap ng pinakamalapit at murang na parking lot si Juan at duon umupa ng paradahan niya para sa oto nya. naintindihan ko yung puntoni ts kase kasama sa responsibilidad ng pagkakaroon ng oto eh yung pangangalaga sa oto nya at di paggambala sa iba. sa totoo lang kase, ang harap ng bahay, kung bangketa o kalye man eh para talaga sa mga dumadaan. kahit na qq, me espasyo pa rin na nakukuha kaya maaring nakakaabala pa rin sa mga nagdadaan - tao man o mga sasakyan.

**CVT** · February 12th, 2010 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by speed unlimited

Dati rito sa Manila kung wala kang paradahan ng sasakyan mo ibabayad mo sa City hall at bibigyan ka ng sticker para iwas recker sa kalsada kung saan nakaparada.

Iyan ang isang puwedeng solusyon,- Puwede rin naman kasing gawing ordinansa.... Parang nagrerenta ka ng public parking sa kalye.... Puwedeng gawing medyo mataas para ma-encourage ang mga tao na humanap ng tamang parking area/garahe para sa kanilang sasakyan....

9303:grin2:

**digitalron** · February 17th, 2010 08:04 PM

It's been argued repeatedly in the past, but it seems House Bill 7052 principally authored by Rep. Narciso D. Santiago III will be taking this issue to the next level.

No parking space, no car registration - solon
http://www.congress.gov.ph/press/det...p?pressid=4085

This is sure to cause a lot of arguments to erupt, something like "it's so anti-poor" versus "discipline first." I personally think what should happen is that a compromise can be done, something like where the local government (say mayor with the help of the barangay captain and city planner/engineer) can identify paid parking areas for the benefit of car owners who can't afford to have a house with a garage. Car owners can then apply for a monthly or yearly plan where they lease the parking slot. This could also help organize streets so that parkign would only be on one side to ensure sufficient space for vehicles passing through. This would also ensure that driveways are spared from being blocked by unscrupulous people.

I myself would welcome something like that. I'd be willing to pay a reasonable amount, say Php 1,000 to 1,500/month (reserved parking in a place like RCBC Plaza costs Php3,200/month but it's covered and has a semblance of security) to have my reserved slot. This will also help alleviate fights resulting from the usual "agawan" that happens a lot of times when car owners jockey for position for parking slots.

Just my dos sentimos.

**CVT** · February 17th, 2010 08:17 PM

Nagbabasa siguro si Rep Santiago III ng tsikot.com.... O baka, tsikoteer iyan....

9303:grin2:

**sgt_taga** · February 25th, 2010 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by digitalron

It's been argued repeatedly in the past, but it seems House Bill 7052 principally authored by Rep. Narciso D. Santiago III will be taking this issue to the next level.

No parking space, no car registration - solon
http://www.congress.gov.ph/press/det...p?pressid=4085

This is sure to cause a lot of arguments to erupt, something like "it's so anti-poor" versus "discipline first." I personally think what should happen is that a compromise can be done, something like where the local government (say mayor with the help of the barangay captain and city planner/engineer) can identify paid parking areas for the benefit of car owners who can't afford to have a house with a garage. Car owners can then apply for a monthly or yearly plan where they lease the parking slot. This could also help organize streets so that parkign would only be on one side to ensure sufficient space for vehicles passing through. This would also ensure that driveways are spared from being blocked by unscrupulous people.

I myself would welcome something like that. I'd be willing to pay a reasonable amount, say Php 1,000 to 1,500/month (reserved parking in a place like RCBC Plaza costs Php3,200/month but it's covered and has a semblance of security) to have my reserved slot. This will also help alleviate fights resulting from the usual "agawan" that happens a lot of times when car owners jockey for position for parking slots.

Just my dos sentimos.

100% agree ako dito brader. then, in the fight between "proo poor" and "pro discipline", i think the later should prevail. to me, being poor is no excuse to have no discipline.

**4wrider** · March 15th, 2010 10:34 AM

It's plain common sense that if you can't afford to have a place to park your car without inconveniencing others, then, you really can't afford owning a car.

There are just too many irresponsible car owners who encroach on other people's or public properties. Manila with a its old and narrow road network should more strictly enforce existing laws against parking in public roads.

**meledson** · March 15th, 2010 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by digitalron

It's been argued repeatedly in the past, but it seems House Bill 7052 principally authored by Rep. Narciso D. Santiago III will be taking this issue to the next level.

No parking space, no car registration - solon
http://www.congress.gov.ph/press/det...p?pressid=4085

This is sure to cause a lot of arguments to erupt, something like "it's so anti-poor" versus "discipline first." I personally think what should happen is that a compromise can be done, something like where the local government (say mayor with the help of the barangay captain and city planner/engineer) can identify paid parking areas for the benefit of car owners who can't afford to have a house with a garage. Car owners can then apply for a monthly or yearly plan where they lease the parking slot. This could also help organize streets so that parkign would only be on one side to ensure sufficient space for vehicles passing through. This would also ensure that driveways are spared from being blocked by unscrupulous people.

I myself would welcome something like that. I'd be willing to pay a reasonable amount, say Php 1,000 to 1,500/month (reserved parking in a place like RCBC Plaza costs Php3,200/month but it's covered and has a semblance of security) to have my reserved slot. This will also help alleviate fights resulting from the usual "agawan" that happens a lot of times when car owners jockey for position for parking slots.

Just my dos sentimos.

law makers can push this down our throats. Like going unleaded, the use of Ethanol and Biodiesel.

I agree to this, but not 100% agree.

**kapitan88** · March 15th, 2010 12:22 PM

the only difference is that sa case ng unleaded at ethanol, yung mga oil companies lang ang pwersahin, then tayo consumers, wala na option. while kung yung parking, sino manghuhuli? AFAIK, dati nang bawal ang parking sa major thoroughfare, but here sa bacoor, everyday na daan ko, yung natl road where yung municipal hall is, (evangelista yata, not sure) pinaganda yung road, new asphalt, ganda with matching road markings pa, tapos konting widening at reclaim nung sides, and made it 2 lanes each sides, pero what for? para lang parking din ng mga kotse nila. so in the end, 1 lane each pa din ang gamit. So, what i can see here, is they can pass that another law, kahit redundant na yang law bout parking, pero in the end, walang maasahan na mag enforce nyan. Depende na siguro kung san ka. pag dating nman sa lto renewal, another case ito ng kotong, para sa mag inspect.