Another ugly elevated tollroad - Rivals Ayala, SM team up for P25-B tollway project

[beetlebmble]

Underground long or stretch hybrid bus ang magandang ilagay. Locally made para later on maging yung technology sa ganitong mga sasakyan ay lalong macommercialize .. creating more jobs ( advancement din sa ating local battery industry). We now have DICT , the government side, to also oversee.

[niky]

Underground highway is really the way to go for MM, ang problema lang yung geographical setting ng Pinas, na prone sa earthquake.
Mahal ang maintenance at repair kung masira ng lindol. Although yung Skyways ay hindi rin earthquake proof pero mas mura at madali ang repair kung kinakailangan.
Problema din sa underground highway ay maintenace cost, dewatering at ventilation. Most likely ang toll fee nyan ay nasa around P250 at 300,000 vehicles per day traffic.
Ang maganda lang sa underground mas flexible sa design at routes, once na start na, tuloy tuloy na ang pagdevelop ng additional artery within MM.
And during typhoon, pwedeng gamiting flood water reservoir yung tunnel. In the long run mas beneficial yung may system ng underground roads ang MM.
Economically feasible naman ito, mag diet lang sa corruption yung mga govt officials natin.

The problem I see is the quality of the engineering of some of the structures that they will be boring under.

Wala pa ngang tunnel, may nag-co-collapse na.

[StockEngine]

The problem I see is the quality of the engineering of some of the structures that they will be boring under.

Wala pa ngang tunnel, may nag-co-collapse na.

I wouldnt be driving in a tunnel made by these developers.

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[RR_22]

Why not? We have been clamoring for additional roads right?

I hope before this gets approved, can we also have unsolicited proposal for Urban Planning?


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[EQAddict]

Im all for this if it helps alleviate traffic. My life is pratically ruled by traffic. So this gets a thumbs up from me. Hope its approved.

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[crazy_boy]

Sa bangkok puro elevated highways din. Pero sana magpalagay ng rfid yung mga gagamt to prevent traffic build ups sa toll booths


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[CVT]

" Build it and they will come.... "

[absinthe]

“They cannot build this project,” >>> Ramon S. Ang :D

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SMC not keen on Ayala-SM tollroad proposal
By: Daxim L. Lucas - Reporter /
*daxinqPhilippine Daily Inquirer /
12:12 AM April 03, 2017

San Miguel Corp. president Ramon Ang has turned down an invitation for the conglomerate to participate in a P25-billion elevated tollroad project that would be built jointly by the Ayala and SM groups.

Not only did Ang reject the idea of joining the project, he also said the proposal of the two companies would do nothing except to duplicate—and siphon motorists and revenues away from—San Miguel’s own tollways, which connected the endpoints that the proposed rival road aimed to serve.

He said the proposed project unveiled in a press briefing on Friday by Ayala executive Rene Almendras was also trying to undermine another San Miguel project that would connect Sen. Gil Puyat Avenue in Makati to Macapagal Avenue in Pasay City, which was filed with regulators earlier.

“They cannot build this project,” Ang said. “It will cannibalize our Naia Expressway for which we paid the government an P11-billion premium.”

San Miguel’s newly completed Naia Expressway connects the Pagcor Entertainment City complex adjacent to SM’s Mall of Asia development to the Skyway system, which allows motorists to connect with northern Metro Manila faster by bypassing the heavy at-grade vehicular traffic.

“What’s the distance between Mall of Asia and Pagcor City? These are just side by side,” Ang said. “they just want to duplicate what we have. And they want to get that (proposed concession) for free?”

In addition to the P11-billion premium paid to the government just for the right to build Naia Expressway, San Miguel spent another P15 billion to build the elevated roadway, in addition to the cost of financing the project—at least P26 billion.

Officials of the conglomerate said that, in the event regulators would approve the proposed Ayala-SM tollroad, San Miguel would have to invoke provisions of its own concession agreement which would require the state to compensate Naia Expressway’s owners in the event of so-called “material adverse government action” (Maga).

“Maga is the same thing the Ayala group is using today [to gain compensation] for the LRT1 Extension project,” San Miguel official Lorenzo Formoso said. “If government approves anything that affects the viability of our concession, they will have to compensate us.”

Ang expressed hopes that the government will carefully consider the issue since any compensation that will have to be paid to San Miguel as a result of favoring the Ayala-SM proposal will have to come from the state’s coffers.

“The taxpaying public will be inconvenienced,” he said.

[kagalingan]

Problem kasi sa mga ganito nagpresenta to make an elevated road eh patse-patse mangyayari long term. Tayo dito....after 20 years tayo na naman......massage, rinse....lather....repeat. Ang lego maganda lang tingnan pag laruan.

Ang iniisip lang how to move cars. Paano naman yung unsightly/ugliness ng elevated road..... Do you find osmena to magallanes beautiful.....Kulob!!!! Paano na ang sinag ng araw....Paano na yung view...... Paano ang trees..... Nawawala ang harmony.....Nakakasira sa community.

Ang trend sa pinas pag may intersection tayuan mo ng elevated road.

Sa elevated road ang dami lilikuan kaya humahaba ang kalsada. Pag underground mas maiksi pero magastos talaga. Pag nakuha ko na yung $200billion gibain ko talaga mrt , lrt, skyway.

[kagalingan]

engineer architect glenn duke,

Possible ba pag elevated road ang height eh pang 10thfloor to 20th flloor para hindi kulob sa ilalim?

Kasi ang nangyayari sa sobrang lapad ng poste eh sumikip naman.

Wala pa bang technology na yung foundation eh kasing lapad ng poste ng meralco....