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    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    Di mabasa maayos yung report kung the FAIL and finding na need to retest yung sound level is for an "LC200" with the post. I am skeptical right now sa claim na all stock and na LC dahil yung photo mismo ng LC is just a "reference photo" diba? hindi yung LC na nagfail, pero kaya niya share supposedly yung report na FAIL.

    So I am skeptical muna.

    Yung sa Pampanga na MVIC, reply nila din was binabaluktot daw yung story kasi magkaiba "daw" talaga yung brake test results before and after, hindi din sila naningil ng retest fee etc. So as long as may hawak yung MVIC ng video and papers/results, puro pakalat lang for now yung mga lumabas.

    Don't know lang about sa Subaru na tinest as FWD. Honestly speaking lang, di ko maimagine pano ka makakatest na FWD lang? so sa front may rollers para dun check yung actual speed vs speedo reading dapat right? pero kung iikot din yung gulong sa likod due to AWD, e di simula pa lang may movement dapat right? Medyo curious ako kung may video sana yung sa Subaru na nasira yung Center Diff panu natest as a FWD yung AWD? Diba to test that is on a "rolling road" ala dyno?
    need daw mag test with both tire roller pag 4wd or AWD vehicle..

    sa mga may stability control, dapat naka turn off yan kasi iisipin ng computer na dumudulas ka so baka mag apply yan ng electronic brake..

    pero di ba pag may ABS ka, mag error naman yan kasi ma detect nya na 2 wheels lang nag roll? naalala ko dati yung mazda 323 ko na may ABS, na ilaw yung ABS light pag umandar na naka angat yung gulong

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    #52
    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    Di mabasa maayos yung report kung the FAIL and finding na need to retest yung sound level is for an "LC200" with the post. I am skeptical right now sa claim na all stock and na LC dahil yung photo mismo ng LC is just a "reference photo" diba? hindi yung LC na nagfail, pero kaya niya share supposedly yung report na FAIL.

    So I am skeptical muna.

    Yung sa Pampanga na MVIC, reply nila din was binabaluktot daw yung story kasi magkaiba "daw" talaga yung brake test results before and after, hindi din sila naningil ng retest fee etc. So as long as may hawak yung MVIC ng video and papers/results, puro pakalat lang for now yung mga lumabas.

    Don't know lang about sa Subaru na tinest as FWD. Honestly speaking lang, di ko maimagine pano ka makakatest na FWD lang? so sa front may rollers para dun check yung actual speed vs speedo reading dapat right? pero kung iikot din yung gulong sa likod due to AWD, e di simula pa lang may movement dapat right? Medyo curious ako kung may video sana yung sa Subaru na nasira yung Center Diff panu natest as a FWD yung AWD? Diba to test that is on a "rolling road" ala dyno?
    Pag AWD yung axle that's not being tested kelangan nakapatong din sa rollers. Problema yung machine ng MVIC doesn't have adjustable rollers like pang dyno, so at best they'll need to use those portable ones na parang dollies.

    Check out this picture.


    The way the rollers are, there's no way to allow the non-tested axle to freewheel.

    This is how AWD vehicles should be tested:


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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
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    yan na nga bro, di sila ready.
    im sure si assistant taga lista lang andun at chief.mechanic nakatambay lang sa booth

    baka may eskena pa na, "sir di road worthy sasakyan nyo, kasi yun oem nyan may ducktail. pakabit muna kayo ducktail para ma approve kayo" [AI] Here's what they'll check during MVIS inspection[AI] Here's what they'll check during MVIS inspection

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    Pag AWD yung axle that's not being tested kelangan nakapatong din sa rollers. Problema yung machine ng MVIC doesn't have adjustable rollers like pang dyno, so at best they'll need to use those portable ones na parang dollies.

    Check out this picture.


    The way the rollers are, there's no way to allow the non-tested axle to freewheel.

    This is how AWD vehicles should be tested:

    sagot kaya ng MVIC shop yung kotse mo pag madisgrasya nila? say may tanga tech na instead brakes eh accelerator ang natapakan? kawawa naman mga naka montero kasi baka sisihin yung isyu ng SUA.. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    Pag AWD yung axle that's not being tested kelangan nakapatong din sa rollers. Problema yung machine ng MVIC doesn't have adjustable rollers like pang dyno, so at best they'll need to use those portable ones na parang dollies.

    Check out this picture.


    The way the rollers are, there's no way to allow the non-tested axle to freewheel.

    This is how AWD vehicles should be tested:

    Thanks for this reference. Mas naintindihan ko na.

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    #56
    Found this re: LC failed sound test
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    655dB! Labo naman that is obviously equipment malfunction, otherwise patay na silang lahat dun sa loob ng MVIC testing center. Hindi na dapat pinaabot yun sa papel and immediate re-test na.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    Found this re: LC failed sound test

    655dB! Labo naman that is obviously equipment malfunction, otherwise patay na silang lahat dun sa loob ng MVIC testing center. Hindi na dapat pinaabot yun sa papel and immediate re-test na.

    Nice getting the cleaner copy of the report.

    Wow! 600+ db. Hindi kaya manual encoding ito onto the report na mag "auto flag" on that database if less than or greater than ng baseline siya to indicate the pass or fail then?

    "Nuclear explosions are amongst loudest phenomena on Earth. Their loudness ranges roughly from 240 dB to over 280 dB. Only the big volcanic eruptions are louder. Explosion of the biggest bomb ever tried was heard at a distance of about 1000 km." (from Google search)

    Duda naman ako na "kaya" ng meter nila sumukat ng 600+ db for no reason na any rational testing would never reach.

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    Walang gamot sa katangahan or kabobohan!


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    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    Nice getting the cleaner copy of the report.

    Wow! 600+ db. Hindi kaya manual encoding ito onto the report na mag "auto flag" on that database if less than or greater than ng baseline siya to indicate the pass or fail then?

    "Nuclear explosions are amongst loudest phenomena on Earth. Their loudness ranges roughly from 240 dB to over 280 dB. Only the big volcanic eruptions are louder. Explosion of the biggest bomb ever tried was heard at a distance of about 1000 km." (from Google search)

    Duda naman ako na "kaya" ng meter nila sumukat ng 600+ db for no reason na any rational testing would never reach.
    Actually may nabasa ako before na parang the upper limit to "sound" on Earth (1 atmosphere) is about 194dB. Any higher and it's not sound anymore and becomes a shock/blast wave.

    An Upper Limit to Sound? – Wayne Staab

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    Hinde pa nagsalita si deakin about dito? Chup-chup boy ni kingkong tugade yun eh.


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