Toyota Recall - Accelerator Pedal may get stuck [merged]

[dekzee]

noticed that too on my 2010 altis.. usually from 2nd to 3rd gear maly lag ang release ng rpm.. 'hope di ito sign ng accelerator problem!

I think nasagot na ito in one of the threads (baka dun sa 10th gen altis owner's thread). If I remember correctly, normal ito. The delay in drop of rpm is a fuel economy feature of the toyota engines. I think the engine uses more fuel or masama sa engine kung abruptly babagsak ang rpm? correct me if i'm wrong pero eto yung intindi ko doon sa explanation sa isang thread.

bottomline, this should be nothing to get worried about

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Another runaway Toyota on live TV. This time a Prius. This wasn't included in the recall...

Prius with stuck accelerator glides to safe stop

EL CAJON, Calif. – A California Highway Patrol officer helped slow a runaway Toyota Prius from 94 mph to a safe stop on Monday after the car's accelerator became stuck on a San Diego County freeway, the CHP said.

Prius driver James Sikes said that the incident Monday occurred just two weeks after he had taken the vehicle in to an El Cajon dealership for repairs after receiving a recall notice, but he was turned away.

"I gave them my recall notice and they handed it back and said I'm not on the recall list," Sikes said.

In a statement, Toyota said it has dispatched a field technical specialist to San Diego to investigate the incident.

Toyota has recalled some 8.5 million vehicles worldwide — more than 6 million in the United States — since last fall because of acceleration problems in multiple models and braking issues in the Prius.

On Monday, Sikes called 911 about 1:30 p.m. after accelerating to pass another vehicle on Interstate 8 near La Posta and finding that he could not control his car, the CHP said.

"I pushed the gas pedal to pass a car and it did something kind of funny ... it jumped and it just stuck there," the 61-year-old driver said at a news conference.

"As it was going, I was trying the brakes ... it wasn't stopping, it wasn't doing anything and it just kept speeding up," Sikes said, adding he could smell the brakes burning he was pressing the pedal so hard.

A patrol car pulled alongside the Prius and officers told Sikes over a loudspeaker to push the brake pedal to the floor and apply the emergency brake.

"They also got it going on a steep upgrade," said Officer Jesse Udovich. "Between those three things, they got it to slow down."

After the car decelerated to about 50 mph, Sikes turned off the engine and coasted to a halt.

The officer then maneuvered his car in front of the Prius as a precautionary block, Udovich said.

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ0aVipFR34]California man says Prius accelerated out of control[/ame]

[niky]

Another runaway Toyota on live TV. This time a Prius. This wasn't included in the recall...

Unfortunately, the guy also stated he received a letter for the recall and went to the dealership to have his car checked.

Amazing that he received a letter for a car not included in the recall, eh? This story has more bullsnot in it than is imaginable.

Yet, the media are lapping it up. Incredible.

[Hanren]

Somewhat OT (sorry)

Just to add to Toyota's troubles ..

Just watched this from CNN today..

A former Toyota lawyer has with him some "damaging" documents detailing some out of court settlements made by Toyota ( in order not to include some of the cases (of accidents) out of the "Book of Knowledge")..

There might be more to this case than just the quality issues that Toyota is facing right now..might be money, pride, or prestige issues for this former lawyer or it might reveal a systematic coverup made by Toyota.

[scharnhorst]

Unfortunately, the guy also stated he received a letter for the recall and went to the dealership to have his car checked.

Amazing that he received a letter for a car not included in the recall, eh? This story has more bullsnot in it than is imaginable.

Yet, the media are lapping it up. Incredible.

I read about this story on jalopnik

sounded ridiculous then, since the details on how they stopped the prius was limited to "the cars did not touch until they both came to a complete halt"

pasalamat yung driver that he literally had miles to call the police, ask for help, and coast to a halt.

I remember someone mentioning brakes wouldn't help much against a v8 or a v6, but a sub-2 liter engine overpowering the brakes?

[niky]

Somewhat OT (sorry)

Just to add to Toyota's troubles ..

Just watched this from CNN today..

A former Toyota lawyer has with him some "damaging" documents detailing some out of court settlements made by Toyota ( in order not to include some of the cases (of accidents) out of the "Book of Knowledge")..

There might be more to this case than just the quality issues that Toyota is facing right now..might be money, pride, or prestige issues for this former lawyer or it might reveal a systematic coverup made by Toyota.

Money issues. Some of the documents given by this guy have been reviewed by outsiders and found to be much less than a "smoking gun". (not to say that no cover-up was ever done... just that what the lawyer has on Toyota is not very exciting).

I read about this story on jalopnik

sounded ridiculous then, since the details on how they stopped the prius was limited to "the cars did not touch until they both came to a complete halt"

pasalamat yung driver that he literally had miles to call the police, ask for help, and coast to a halt.

I remember someone mentioning brakes wouldn't help much against a v8 or a v6, but a sub-2 liter engine overpowering the brakes?

Regenerative brakes, at that. I thought the gasoline engine would cut out if you activated brake regeneration? Need to find out.

Note... according to a fuller report, the driver did not put the car into neutral. He refused to put it in neutral, because the car "might flip over".

If he'd done that, the drama would have been over fourteen miles sooner.

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Again... the driver said he'd gone to Toyota after receiving a (non-existent) recall letter for his car... which hasn't been recalled yet. It's a second gen Prius, with a recall pending. It's the third gen that's being recalled right now.

That car has nowhere near enough power on the gasoline engine (about 80 hp) to overpower both the regular and the regenerative brakes. Which is why he was able to stop the car. The officer pulled out in front of him when the car had slowed down to make sure the vehicle didn't surge forward anymore.

I'm still waiting for the autopsy ( ) of the vehicle to find out if there's any truth to this case. (of course, in other cases, there was obviously something... this one... don't know yet.)

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May media bias against Toyota...

NEW YORK – For the want of a better two-second picture of a tachometer, ABC News has called into question its reporting on acceleration problems with Toyota vehicles.

The network's handling of a Feb. 22 "World News" story about potential problems with computer systems in Toyotas has created ethical questions and intensified bitter feelings the besieged automaker already had toward ABC.

ABC has admitted to a misjudgment and swapped out the brief dashboard video in its report, which continues to be available online. Its story illustrated a report by David Gilbert, a Southern Illinois University professor who suggested that a design flaw in Toyotas might leave a short-circuit that could cause sudden acceleration undetected by the car's computer system.

Correspondent Brian Ross' "World News" report showed him driving a Toyota with Gilbert that was rigged to quickly accelerate. Even though he knew it was coming, Ross said the incident left him shaken, and he had a hard time getting the car to come to a stop.

Briefly during the drive, ABC cut to a picture of a tachometer with the needle zooming forward. The impression was that the tachometer was documenting the ride Ross was taking. Instead, that picture was taken from a separate instance where a short-circuit was induced in a parked car.

ABC said that editing was done because it was impossible to get a good picture of the tachometer while the car was moving because the camera was shaking. The camera shot was steady when it was taken in a parked car.

"The tachometer showed the same thing every time," said ABC News spokeswoman Emily Lenzner.

Toyota spokesman John Hanson disputes that, saying tachometers react much more dramatically when short-circuits happen in a parked car than a car that is moving. Tachometers measure engine speed.

It all points to problems that are created when visual journalists try to alter reality in order to get a better picture.

She said Toyota was given a chance to comment on the story the day it was aired.

"It was not like ABC was trying to alter the footage," she said. "There was no staging. There was no dramatization. It was an editing mistake."

Even before this report, relations between Toyota and ABC were on edge. More than 100 Toyota dealerships in the Southeast had agreed last month to pull advertising on local ABC affiliated because they were angry with Ross' aggressive reporting on the automaker's problems.

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*niky: "smoking brakes" raw? hehe. 2nd gen prius with a 1.3 liter motor.

"flip over" when put into neutral? can anybody explain this? as far as I know... pag linagay sa neutral ang auto... it will eventually come to a halt as well without the aid of coppers

May media bias against Toyota...

I saw this Brian Ross report. Fake kung fake talaga

[sm2by]

*niky: "smoking brakes" raw? hehe. 2nd gen prius with a 1.3 liter motor.

The 2nd Gen prius has the 1.5L vios engine. I can understand why the driver can't put the car in neutral since the shifter of the Prius is just a joystick toggle connected to the ECU not your typical Automatic Shifter directly connected to the transmission. Since current toyotas don't have brake override systems shifting to neutral in the Prius would've been almost impossible...