Toyota Recall - Accelerator Pedal may get stuck [merged]

**Monseratto** · February 24th, 2010 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by sm2by

It has been announced!!!!
TOYOTA is in big trouble!!!!!

http://www.burlappcars.com/2010/02/m...om-toyota.html

This video shows how the sudden acceleration problem can actually be reproduced.
And, unlike what Toyota has been claiming all along, it IS a software problem.
Even worse, the onboard computer cannot "see" it.
So if you go to your dealer, it'll say your car is fine and that nothing ever happened.

Which is what people have been experiencing.

The ABCNews report is self-serving and highly suspect. The test is a deliberate short circuiting the computer, conducted in not normal conditions. There is no electronic item that won't short circuit when they corrode or come into contact with moisture. And why only Toyota? All car computers work the same way and may short circuit themsleves due to corrosion and moisture.

**niky** · February 24th, 2010 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by sm2by

It has been announced!!!!
TOYOTA is in big trouble!!!!!

http://www.burlappcars.com/2010/02/m...om-toyota.html

This video shows how the sudden acceleration problem can actually be reproduced.
And, unlike what Toyota has been claiming all along, it IS a software problem.
Even worse, the onboard computer cannot "see" it.
So if you go to your dealer, it'll say your car is fine and that nothing ever happened.

Which is what people have been experiencing.

I just wonder how far this will go for Toyota. Sales are down, reputation that took decades to build is getting worse every day.

Yeah, he reproduced the symptoms, but he hasn't said how much he's had to do to reproduce them.

He intentionally short-circuited the car, and used soldered wires and resistor to make a very specific connection between the two accelerator wires. The problem with this is that the resistor makes the ECU see a very specific voltage, which might be impossible to recreate as a failure mode, since short-circuits often create low or high voltage readings from sensors, as well as intermittent and erratic signals, which is what triggers the engine light.

It's like saying he can make an iron catch fire by shorting out the wires leading to the thermostat. Duh. Obviously. The question is, is it realistic to assume that you can get an iron to fail in the same way naturally? Are the wires he's shorting out wires that actually move around and can possibly fray? Or are they relatively far apart? When they short out, will they maintain continuous contact long enough to weld to each other?

Until he releases the schematics and details of how he created this "short", it doesn't mean anything. At least, not yet.

**xda2jojo** · February 24th, 2010 03:24 PM

*niky
+100

**wifedrivesaltis** · February 25th, 2010 06:25 AM

Boss Good Day

My wife and I drives a 2008 Altis 1.6 - and last year " meron akong naririnig na squeaking sounds when I do the foot clutch, and it happen more frequent, more sounds of
like a mouse na naipit or when metal is contacting metal and a linear motion is introduced, or rubber that is forced over a metal pulley.

I reported this to Toyota Cebu ( Mandaue Branch ) but the technical team gives me a poor answer " kulang ng lubricant " so they did put oil for lubrication.
An hour later when I drove back, same result I can still hear the sound.
I went back to Toyota Cebu ( Mandaue Branch ) reported the problem.
No one cared....normal lang daw...what the F?
Up to this writing our car gives squeaking sound.Meron ba etong problema?
Any suggestion?Thank you very much for reading.

**tidus1203** · February 25th, 2010 07:48 AM

Akio Toyoda testifies at US Congressional probe...

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Corporate leaders in Japan are affable cheerleaders who solicit everyone's views and avoid confrontation at almost any cost. It's called "nemawashi." U.S. lawmakers are cut-throat partisans who clamor for the spotlight, especially in an election year. It's called politics.
These cultures collided Wednesday in the appearance of a polite man from a distant land before a congressional committee stocked with angry men and women with axes to grind.

The rest of the story

**arbe** · February 25th, 2010 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by tidus1203

Akio Toyoda testifies at US Congressional probe...

The rest of the story

Toyota's President, Akio Toyoda, has told US lawmakers he is "deeply sorry", following the carmaker's safety crisis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg07APkkr38

**A121** · February 25th, 2010 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by wifedrivesaltis

Boss Good Day

My wife and I drives a 2008 Altis 1.6 - and last year " meron akong naririnig na squeaking sounds when I do the foot clutch, and it happen more frequent, more sounds of
like a mouse na naipit or when metal is contacting metal and a linear motion is introduced, or rubber that is forced over a metal pulley.

I reported this to Toyota Cebu ( Mandaue Branch ) but the technical team gives me a poor answer " kulang ng lubricant " so they did put oil for lubrication.
An hour later when I drove back, same result I can still hear the sound.
I went back to Toyota Cebu ( Mandaue Branch ) reported the problem.
No one cared....normal lang daw...what the F?
Up to this writing our car gives squeaking sound.Meron ba etong problema?
Any suggestion?Thank you very much for reading.

I think that is normal. Ang masama kung lumulusot yang clutch pedal mo at hindi ka makapagchange gear.

**uls** · February 25th, 2010 11:09 AM

BREAKING: FBI Raids Three Toyota Suppliers In Detroit
http://jalopnik.com/5479384/breaking...ers-in-detroit

While Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda sits answering questions on Capitol Hill, the FBI confirmed with us they raided the offices of three Toyota suppliers in Metro Detroit for documents related to antitrust violations.

UPDATE!

The FBI just confirmed to us they raided the offices of Yazaki North America, Denso International and Tokai Rika (TRAM). Though all are Toyota supplies they've yet to confirm if this is a part of an ongoing probe into Toyota's 1.4 million unit recall, and a larger antitrust action confirmed by Toyota to MSNBC.

According to Denso spokesperson Bridgette Gollinger "this is not related to the Toyota Recall investigation," though she was unable to comment on what this was related to.

This announcement comes at the same time as Toyota Motor Corp. CEO Akio Toyoda takes the stand in Washington, DC and follows a report that the SEC was looking into the embattled automakers.

UPDATE: It's possible this is actually related to a larger investigation into electronics manufacturers who have been charged with fixing prices charged to automakers as part of a cartel. If this is part of that investigation it could mean Toyota is possibly a victim both of unfair trade practices and all the bad press from having their suppliers raided by the FBI.

**Autobeat** · February 25th, 2010 11:48 AM

Bulent Ezal's 2005 Camry surged over the curb of a restaurant parking lot in Pismo Beach, California, then plunged 70 feet down a cliff, killing Mr. Ezal's wife

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...-his-wife.html

Story reports on sudden acceleration on a 2005 Camry and a 2009 Corolla. Both causing one death each.

A few years into "fly by wire" throttle technology, we are starting to see it's dangers. It is possible this is not isolated with Toyota. I remember a few years ago a local family complained their Suzuki suddenly surged out of their garage as well.