Toyota Recall - Accelerator Pedal may get stuck [merged]

**scharnhorst** · February 20th, 2010 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by blythe07

it's safe pa naman to buy a brand-new VIOS or YARIS no? what do you think? these models are not included in the recalls naman diba?

nope. di sila kasama.

**xda2jojo** · February 21st, 2010 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by blythe07

it's safe pa naman to buy a brand-new VIOS or YARIS no? what do you think? these models are not included in the recalls naman diba?

kung mayroon man probs, walang pakialam gov't natin dito...

**dekzee** · February 22nd, 2010 07:27 PM

Now I don't know what's their beef about the corolla power steering. My altis' steering works brilliantly. ultra light kapag parking at low speed, tapos bumibigat habang bumibilis. I mean, those who are complaining probably had the chance to test drive the car bago sila bumili di ba? e kung hindi nila pala kasundo yung steering ng corolla, e hindi na dapat nila binili in the first place. Eh ganun talaga ang steering ng corolla e. sheeeesh

I still believe that politically motivated ang lahat ng ito. the US government owns 40% of GM and a significant portion of chrysler after the auto bailout. now their government would not want to see their investments go south, would they? not with their slighted egos (when toyota overtook GM as the largest auto maker). kaya they're doing everything to bring toyota down. isabay mo pa ang predatory instinct ng mga amerikano.

**green_machine** · February 22nd, 2010 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by dekzee

Now I don't know what's their beef about the corolla power steering. My altis' steering works brilliantly. ultra light kapag parking at low speed, tapos bumibigat habang bumibilis. I mean, those who are complaining probably had the chance to test drive the car bago sila bumili di ba? e kung hindi nila pala kasundo yung steering ng corolla, e hindi na dapat nila binili in the first place. Eh ganun talaga ang steering ng corolla e. sheeeesh

I still believe that politically motivated ang lahat ng ito. the US government owns 40% of GM and a significant portion of chrysler after the auto bailout. now their government would not want to see their investments go south, would they? not with their slighted egos (when toyota overtook GM as the largest auto maker). kaya they're doing everything to bring toyota down. isabay mo pa ang predatory instinct ng mga amerikano.

I kind of agree with you. Actually gusto ko yung steering ng Altis kasi stable siya. At low speeds, sinubukan kong bitawan, ni hindi man lang gumalaw; steady pa rin. Sa highway naman, steady lang din siya. Ewan ko, baka maswerte lang tayo na maayos yung units na nakuha natin. Or baka may difference ang specs ng Corolla sa US at dito sa atin?

As for the gas pedal issue, marami talagang complaint diyan. Totoo yung issues na iyon, na mas lalong lumala because of different factors. I also believe that it's politically motivated in a subtle way, due to the facts you mentioned. But the damage has been done and the company feels it, although may kasabihan na "what doesn't kill them will make them stronger", and I believe that will be the case.

**wiper** · February 22nd, 2010 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by green_machine

I kind of agree with you. Actually gusto ko yung steering ng Altis kasi stable siya. At low speeds, sinubukan kong bitawan, ni hindi man lang gumalaw; steady pa rin. Sa highway naman, steady lang din siya. Ewan ko, baka maswerte lang tayo na maayos yung units na nakuha natin. Or baka may difference ang specs ng Corolla sa US at dito sa atin?

As for the gas pedal issue, marami talagang complaint diyan. Totoo yung issues na iyon, na mas lalong lumala because of different factors. I also believe that it's politically motivated in a subtle way, due to the facts you mentioned. But the damage has been done and the company feels it, although may kasabihan na "what doesn't kill them will make them stronger", and I believe that will be the case.

It might be politically motivated in the US, but here in the Philippines who will take care of our Toyota's D4D engine problems.Our complaints went to deaf ears. It seems Toyota dont want to address our problem till the 3 year warranty expire.

**niky** · February 23rd, 2010 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by dekzee

Now I don't know what's their beef about the corolla power steering. My altis' steering works brilliantly. ultra light kapag parking at low speed, tapos bumibigat habang bumibilis. I mean, those who are complaining probably had the chance to test drive the car bago sila bumili di ba? e kung hindi nila pala kasundo yung steering ng corolla, e hindi na dapat nila binili in the first place. Eh ganun talaga ang steering ng corolla e. sheeeesh

I still believe that politically motivated ang lahat ng ito. the US government owns 40% of GM and a significant portion of chrysler after the auto bailout. now their government would not want to see their investments go south, would they? not with their slighted egos (when toyota overtook GM as the largest auto maker). kaya they're doing everything to bring toyota down. isabay mo pa ang predatory instinct ng mga amerikano.

The accelerator problem is less a political thing than Toyota US executives refusing to acknowledge the issue (and possibly covering it up for two or three years) until the NHTSA told them to stop selling cars.

The steering thing smacks of ambulance chasing, but given that Americans regularly drive at speeds of 120-140 km/h on the highway, there actually might be something there. The Corolla is not stable at those speeds. The steering does firm up, but it's still too light in some cases (the test units we've gotten have had surprisingly different degrees of power assist at highway speed). More experienced drivers (like I've noted in my review) will find it merely annoying, casual drivers might find that driving behavior that is merely improper in other cars (driving with one hand, not paying attention) might be dangerous in the Corolla.

Yeah... they should've known... but many people don't test drive before they buy, and they certainly don't test drive at highway speeds. They just take a ride around the block and sign the papers afterwards.

**nz_alfa** · February 23rd, 2010 05:28 PM

The poster child of the eco-cars, the Prius, has suffered from faulty brakes as well. Now as far as I am aware the Prius recharges its electric batteries by braking? So if the brakes don't work then the batteries don't recharge making it just a normal petrol car.

And I think if we dig deeper into this, God purposely made the Toyota accelerator and brake failures so all those stupid idiots who bought a Prius or those hideous new Camries and whatever other dreary nonsense Toyota USA makes would die.

The Universe has spoken.

Thank god for Volkswagen.

**sm2by** · February 24th, 2010 12:02 AM

It has been announced!!!!
TOYOTA is in big trouble!!!!!

http://www.burlappcars.com/2010/02/m...om-toyota.html

This video shows how the sudden acceleration problem can actually be reproduced.
And, unlike what Toyota has been claiming all along, it IS a software problem.
Even worse, the onboard computer cannot "see" it.
So if you go to your dealer, it'll say your car is fine and that nothing ever happened.

Which is what people have been experiencing.

I just wonder how far this will go for Toyota. Sales are down, reputation that took decades to build is getting worse every day.

**frenchtower** · February 24th, 2010 07:08 AM

What the hell is going on?

[SIZE=4]Toyota: Recalls won't totally fix gas pedal issues[/SIZE]
By Associated Press Writers Larry Margasak And Ken Thomas – 2 mins ago

WASHINGTON – The president of Toyota's U.S. operations acknowledged to skeptical lawmakers on Tuesday that the company's recalls of millions of its cars may "not totally" solve the problem of sudden and dangerous acceleration.

**Monseratto** · February 24th, 2010 08:21 AM

Next thing you'll see is the US Gov't banning 6 million Toyotas w/ the electronic throttle and demand that they replace it with a mechanical ones. Since Toyota won't do that, it will pack up and leave the US market...

Texas Republican Rep. Joe Barton cautioned his colleagues early in the hearing against conducting a "witch hunt" and said "We don't want to just assume automatically that Toyota has done something wrong and has tried to cover it up." But midway through Lentz's testimony, Barton said of Toyota's investigation of the problems: "In my opinion, it's a sham."

Three congressional panels are investigating Toyota's problems, which affect a huge number of Americans. Toyota has recalled some 8.5 million vehicles worldwide -- more than 6 million in the United States -- since last fall because of unintended acceleration problems in multiple models and braking issues in the Prius hybrid. It is also investigating steering concerns in Corollas. People with Toyotas have complained of their vehicles speeding out of control despite efforts to slow down, sometimes resulting in deadly crashes. The government has received complaints of 34 deaths linked to sudden acceleration of Toyota vehicles since 2000.

Separately, among hundreds of Toyota dealers lobbying members of Congress Tuesday, there seemed to be widespread rancor toward a federal government they view as picking on the automaker, at least in part because of the government's investment of billions of dollars in General Motors and Chrysler.

"That's hard for me as a citizen to understand why my tax dollars are going in that direction," Paul Atkinson, a Houston-area Toyota dealer, said at a news conference that also served as a pep rally for the visiting dealers. "To compete with the government as an individual entrepreneur is pretty tough."