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June 26th, 2009 10:40 PM #392Exactly the point. As you may know, a good example is the PhDM 350Z which sells for around US$60K when same USDM model sells for around US$30K. It's not like I don't know that stuff.
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Moving on, we should all leave the Philippines and go somewhere cars are cheap. And yes, not treated as status symbols (well, except if one drives a Lambo or Maybach). Same as iPods. We have such low standards that s&%!boxes are termed luxury cars here! Haha...
My cuz laughed when he saw his friends amazed by a girl getting off a Corolla Altis. Okay, a guy raised on foreign soil looking at a Toyota is not the point of the story. Rather, it's the point that his friends were mesmerized by looking at a gorgeous [driving] woman that's wrong. Well, not to mention that the same Corolla is a "poor man's" car abroad. I'm not saying that I have all the cash to sock in everyone's mouths, but it just isn't right to kneel down in front of someone who owns a lot. Especially if it means kneeling down to someone who can afford to buy exorbitantly priced objects. I know I wouldn't, they're idiots.
Even if I don't have the cash to prove that I only buy products priced right, at least I'm not as stupid as those who have more cash than brains. But it all boils down to one thing...everyone, don't buy the Prius! Buying it is as relevant as finding cheese under your beds.Last edited by roberto_minosa; June 26th, 2009 at 11:08 PM.
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June 26th, 2009 11:08 PM #393
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July 3rd, 2009 08:58 PM #394I have a bit of a background on cO2 emissions and I'm still having a hard time believing that the Prius is actually environmentally friendly. First of all it still runs on petrol which doesnt eliminate the fact that it still produces carbon. The car might obtain additional charge from regenerated energy but there isn't a significant difference between the prius and other economical cars.
Bottom line is, less gas, more miles. It's as simple as that.
Second, the manufacturing of the battery itself needs a lot of energy which in turn also produces carbon emissions by the factory in japan.
Remember you have to replace this battery after a few years since the lithium ion battery still isnt that advanced to have a very long life.
For the price, you are shelling out 2 million pesos for a car. This isn't the end. The battery needs to be replaced which if I read correctly before costs $4,000-5,000. Not only that, it would be nearly impossible to get parts for the hybrid engine and a mechanic who knows how to tweak the hybrid engine, let alone the electric motor.
I'm not saying we must stay on gas cars. I'm an avid environmentalist and I believe that something must be changed but current technology in automobiles just isn't advanced enough to create a BIG impact on c02 emissions.
Although I applaud toyota for a good start, unless the company can make a
1. hydrogen car
although remember that making the hydrogen gas also needs a lot of energy, not to mention high costs. Energy companies need to think of a way to reduce costs of making renewable energy.
2. electric cars
zero emission cars, but remember where you get your electricity from. Chances are it comes from coal plants which produces more c02 emissions than petrol
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July 3rd, 2009 09:13 PM #395
Making a hydrogen car is easy enough since the technology is already available (if somewhat costly). The problem is the infrastructure where you can refuel such a car.
2. electric cars
zero emission cars, but remember where you get your electricity from. Chances are it comes from coal plants which produces more c02 emissions than petrol
As for the cleanliness of source of power, cleaning up the emissions at a half dozen power plants is easier than cleaning up the emissions of half a million cars.
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July 5th, 2009 11:28 AM #396
Lack of infrastructure is also a problem with electrics. If you're using an electric to commute less than 20-40 kms in a day, no problem. If, like me, your daily commute is 80-100+kms, you need the option of refilling outside your home at a high voltage recharging station. Hopefully one that can recharge in less than 15 minutes (normal recharging time for 80% capacity on 220 volts is 4-8 hours).
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July 5th, 2009 01:08 PM #397I like how the Tesla sports car works. They say it can run for about 200km with a single 4-hour charge. Dunno if it has A/C, though.
ps And it costs as much as a Nissan GT-R in the US. Well, at least the buyer pays for actual tech.
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July 6th, 2009 05:29 PM #398i think they should first concentrate on renewable energy plants before mass producing electric cars. Even if they produce electric cars today, it still isn't zero emission since a majority of the world's power plants still rely on gas and coal.
I'd put my bet on fuel cell instead of electric cars though, hopefully they can make a cheap and zero-emission way to produce hydrogen gas.
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July 6th, 2009 06:02 PM #399
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August 12th, 2010 08:44 AM #400
Hi, guys! Just saw an old Prius here in Davao a few days ago. Kala ko mayaman yung may ari then I saw this ad just this morning.
P180K
P290K
http://www.davaoautosale.com/browse....us&color=black
May surplus Prius na pala! Pano na lang parts and service nito for those who will buy this?
Daming issue ng SU7:grin:
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