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    #71
    ^(my personal opinion) yes your complains are legit.

    pero almost same naman experience ko with other car brands

    Wrong Quotation - happened to me which caused delays sa release ng car ko

    Paint Defect/Rust - madami naman talaga dinadaanan cars natin before makarating sa dealership

    Waiting for parts - yes medyo matagal especially kung GR version car mo (sa akin nga di daw kasama yung Modulo kit sa insurance - eh sila naman naglabas nun, di ko naman dinagdag)

    Engine treatment - naiinis na din ako dito. palagi kong pinatatanggal, sabi ng "advisor ko" sinusunod nya lang daw ynug last PMS. sabi ko every PMS pinapatanggal ko yan

    Off center steering (hindi mis-aligned) - I think normal to sa Innova. yung Vios naman feeling ko hindi naka center ng maayos yung steering sa dash board

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    Pero ang pinaka-iinisan ko sa Toyota (and Mitsu) is yung 4X a year PMS nila.

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    #72
    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post

    Off center steering (hindi mis-aligned) - I think normal to sa Innova. yung Vios naman feeling ko hindi naka center ng maayos yung steering sa dash board
    it might be normal, in the sense that so many have the defect. (yes, that is one definition, albeit squacked it may sound.)
    but it's not correct, and should be corrected.

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    #73
    ok naman ako sa Toyota shaw.. since 2007 pa ako don nagpapa pms kahit after warranty.. nag retire na nga yung SA ko.. tapos lumipat na sila nang pwesto..

    last Tuesday.. sabi ko change oil lang.. wala naman ibang ni add..


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    #74
    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    ok naman ako sa Toyota shaw.. since 2007 pa ako don nagpapa pms kahit after warranty.. nag retire na nga yung SA ko.. tapos lumipat na sila nang pwesto..

    last Tuesday.. sabi ko change oil lang.. wala naman ibang ni add..

    when i have my pms,
    "basic lang sir, yes?"
    i suspect, my costumer profile in their computer already says, "kuripot ini; basic lang".

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    #75
    With today's tech in fuel, oil and engine design, 1x per year na lang dapat ang pms

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    #76
    Kaya naman siguro, pero they are probably making their dealers loyal by increasing the PMS frequency so that they earn more. Hindi pa kuntento sa kita sa frequent service, dinagdagan pa ng frequent oil, engine and ac treatments Toyota Philippines

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    #77
    I do change oil every 6 months.. regular oil lang..

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    #78
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    With today's tech in fuel, oil and engine design, 1x per year na lang dapat ang pms
    sisimulan ko yan with my car after my 4th year (bale 9th) PMS.

    halos di na kasi nagagamit car namin. puro motor na lang kami ni misis.

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    #79
    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    LIST: These Toyota PH dealerships offer T-Sure units | Autoindustriya

    Luzon and Metro Manila:

    Toyota Alabang, Toyota Bacoor, Toyota Balintawak, Toyota Bataan, Toyota Batangas, Toyota Bicutan, Toyota Calamba, Toyota Calapan, Toyota Dagupan, Toyota Global City, Toyota Makati, Toyota Manila Bay, Toyota Pasig, Toyota Pasong Tamo, Toyota Plaridel, Toyota Quezon Avenue, Toyota San Pablo, Toyota Santa Rosa, Toyota Silang, and Toyota Taytay, Rizal.

    Visayas and Mindanao:

    Toyota Cagayan de Oro, Toyota Cebu City, Toyota Iloilo, Toyota Lapu-Lapu, Toyota Mabolo, Toyota Mandaue North and South, Toyota Tacloban, and Toyota Talisay.

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    #80
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    With today's tech in fuel, oil and engine design, 1x per year na lang dapat ang pms
    Fully Synthetic, 1x a year din. Di din umaabot 10k kms sa lagay na yun. Within or outside warranty period. Sa Toyota, Mitsu, Honda or Nissan experience ng buong family (anecdotal though so your mileage in warranty claims may vary).

    Toyota loyal pa mother and kuya ko, pero ganun na since time "immemorial" ginagawa namin. Within warranty period, dealer services. Outside warranty, every other or every 3rd year sa dealer service pinapagawa na "heavy PMS". The rest is gas station Shell or Unioil na lang ginagawa change oil, fully synthetic pa din. hehe!

    Sa Toyota sinasabihan namin parati service advisor namin na 1x a year lang change oil, wala naman outright sinasabi need pagawa every 6 months kung hindi mawawala warranty. Poker Face lang siguru kami. or RBF (resting b*t*h face) kaya takot sabihin. haha!

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