Toyota Innova Owners & Discussions [continued 3]

**Deestone** · January 27th, 2021 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by jovz

thanks po uli sir dr. d mas mura lang po kasi 2nd hand po hehehe
sa fog lights po kaya ano po bulb ang inilalagay ok lang po ba un tinatawag na 9500k

The important thing is use the same wattage as to avoid burning the socket.... 9500k i believe is the color temperature of the bulb.

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**Louga** · January 27th, 2021 10:37 PM

Kanina nag paayos ako ng brake/clutch master cylinder kasi ang masyadong mahina brake at may mga times na lumulusot na. Repair kit lang ginamit ko Seiken. 1600 + 850 labor. Buti na lang walang tama yun mismong master cylinder kundi mapapamahal pa sa buong assembly (9500 un Seiken at 14k un Toyota mismo orig).

Balik sa bago na ulit un preno. May subsob na pag nag sudden brake at ramdam na un kayod na gulong. Innova gas 145k km m/t.

**Deestone** · January 28th, 2021 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Louga

Kanina nag paayos ako ng brake/clutch master cylinder kasi ang masyadong mahina brake at may mga times na lumulusot na. Repair kit lang ginamit ko Seiken. 1600 + 850 labor. Buti na lang walang tama yun mismong master cylinder kundi mapapamahal pa sa buong assembly (9500 un Seiken at 14k un Toyota mismo orig).

Balik sa bago na ulit un preno. May subsob na pag nag sudden brake at ramdam na un kayod na gulong. Innova gas 145k km m/t.

But what are the signs isn't it you suspect first worn out brake pads?

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**dr. d** · January 28th, 2021 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Deestone

But what are the signs isn't it you suspect first worn out brake pads?

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my opinion is,
the breaks are as grippy as before, until the pads are so worn that metal starts pressing against metal, whereupon one hear$ that expen$ive $ound....
somewhere along the way, one may hear the engineered "worn breakpad warning sound". but only experienced drivers hear it for what it is. and even then, the breaks may only be marginally less grippy.
some car owners visually check the pads' thickness from time to time, and act accordingly.

according to my experience,
when my break masters fail,
the loss of break power is almost instantaneous.

according to chief mechanic google, suspect master cylinder problem "when the brakes act strangely", whatever that means.
in my case, that meant loss of break power due to loss of break fluid in my non-innova vehicle. 'buti na lang, it occurred along a quiet road, and i was able to nurse-drive 'er to the auto parts store without incident. i used the handbreak to supplement break power. break masters were cheaper back then, and i opted to have the entire thing replaced.

**dr. d** · January 28th, 2021 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by jovz

thanks po uli sir dr. d mas mura lang po kasi 2nd hand po hehehe

no problem, sir!
i buy second hand, as well.
... as long as we know how to evaluate 'em...

**Louga** · January 28th, 2021 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Deestone

But what are the signs isn't it you suspect first worn out brake pads?

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Sa case ko na inspect na namin yun pads (harap at likod) at makakapal pa ito. Nag pa bleed na din ako at nag pa rotor disk reface. Check lahat ng brake lines at wala man tagas. Yun lumulusot ay hindi madalas parang sumpong lang pero yun hina ng preno ay maramdaman mo na. Malayo yun stopping distance. Walang subsob kahit biglang apak. Parang slow motion matagal kapit.

Noong kinalas yun master cylinder may tama na yun rubber at yun isang "ring" ng piston kaya don lumulusot ang brake fluid. Internal leakage ang nangyari.

**Deestone** · January 28th, 2021 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Louga

Sa case ko na inspect na namin yun pads (harap at likod) at makakapal pa ito. Nag pa bleed na din ako at nag pa rotor disk reface. Check lahat ng brake lines at wala man tagas. Yun lumulusot ay hindi madalas parang sumpong lang pero yun hina ng preno ay maramdaman mo na. Malayo yun stopping distance. Walang subsob kahit biglang apak. Parang slow motion matagal kapit.

Noong kinalas yun master cylinder may tama na yun rubber at yun isang "ring" ng piston kaya don lumulusot ang brake fluid. Internal leakage ang nangyari.

Okay good thing you have it check immediately as it is dangerous. Mine too I have it aligned but have to replaced some under chassis prior to alignment.

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**Deestone** · January 28th, 2021 01:03 PM

*Louga

So your brake fluid is always empty so that will be one of the indications.

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**Louga** · January 28th, 2021 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Deestone

*Louga

So your brake fluid is always empty so that will be one of the indications.

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*Deestone - Hindi naman nagbabawas yun brake fluid ko ever since. Lagi ako nag check mga once a week. Hindi pa ata ako ng top up since (napapanis na lng un reserba na bottle ko). Parang internal leakage lng. Yun pag apak mo ng preno imbes na ma compress/pressurize yun fluid at di-deretso sa brake lines ang nangyayari ay yun iba bumabalik sa master cylinder so nababawasan yun braking power mo kahit baon na un paa mo.

May mga mura din na repair kit lang like FIC/FC (made in japan) pero sabi non nagbibenta magaan daw yun at mga P400 lang at yun assembly mga 3-4k. Yun old school na mekaniko na gumawa ay sabi kung kit Seiken gamitin natin at kung buong assembly at kapos sa budget yun FIC/FC ok na din basta buo sya.

**Deestone** · January 29th, 2021 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Louga

*Deestone - Hindi naman nagbabawas yun brake fluid ko ever since. Lagi ako nag check mga once a week. Hindi pa ata ako ng top up since (napapanis na lng un reserba na bottle ko). Parang internal leakage lng. Yun pag apak mo ng preno imbes na ma compress/pressurize yun fluid at di-deretso sa brake lines ang nangyayari ay yun iba bumabalik sa master cylinder so nababawasan yun braking power mo kahit baon na un paa mo.

May mga mura din na repair kit lang like FIC/FC (made in japan) pero sabi non nagbibenta magaan daw yun at mga P400 lang at yun assembly mga 3-4k. Yun old school na mekaniko na gumawa ay sabi kung kit Seiken gamitin natin at kung buong assembly at kapos sa budget yun FIC/FC ok na din basta buo sya.

Okay so it did happen naturally due to wear and tear? You did'nt bump into somethinf that might have cause your damage master cylinder? My innova is also running more than 110k so I should also be wary.

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