Toyota Innova Owners & Discussions [continued 2]

[celina mae]

Hi Ma'am,

About the transfer of our new ride, specially Toyota, they just drive it from Sta Rosa to Casa. Like my ride, I got it in Otis.

Regarding break-in, according to mechanic the proper way is dont drive above 100kph but not to long for 100kph. laro laroin nga daw po sa 100kph. I've also talked to SA & mechanic in toyota Otis, pwede naman daw biritin pero wag lang ibabad ng matagal and break-in na nga rin daw yun unit natin bago pa ilabas sa casa. One more thing, lagi ko may nakakasabay na mga unit na bagong labas sa Sta Rosa going to manila Casa, ang bibilis nila mag drive sa tancha ko its 120-130KPH.

hope nakatulong po!

Hi Sir,

Thanks po sa sharing,nakatulong po ang info at advice nyo..Cheers!

Regards,

Mae

[Twisted05]

SiR,

Thanks po, orange ang kulay,magandang itakbo sa highway at kahit medyo mabilis ay stable ang takbo,since na malapad nga ang tires, yun nga lang kapag nasa 120-140 ka ay may humming sound na sa tires.

Pinacheck ko sa Honda Caloocan, then sabi nila ay mabigat daw ang wheels at tires kaya induce ng humming sound kapag mabilis.Anyway maximum speed discipline ko ay 120 lang po, inahabol ko lang minsan ang wala ding disiplina na mag cut sa toll ways ..he he he.

Black po ang innova ko, dsl G variant m/t, i choose m/t since sanay na po sa clutch at shift gear, medyo may fun kung may galaw ang kamay at paa sa driving di ba? medyo kakaantok po yata ang a/t,sorry po sa a/t owners, opinion ko lang po ito.In terms of convenience lalo na sa traffic ay maganda po ang a/t.

May ask lang po ako sa ating mga professional drivers at mechanic, I use to apply engine braking before stepping on the brake pedal naging habit na po sa driving ko, thats why i preferred m/t.

Ano po ba ang disadvantage ng Engine braking? ang alam ko lang po ay very smooth and fast ang deceleration and it's always a fun for me hearing the engine respond sound ...complain po ang kids ko the way I drive, mali daw po ang Engine braking???

Regards po and happy driving with care.

Enjoy po ako dito sa site, very helpful po ang mga members.

Mae

preno po muna bago engine break.. pag biglang engine break baka sumobsob yng pasahero nyo ma'am.. diesel pa naman...

nice black innova.. medyo konting sipag lang po ma'am mahirap mag alaga nang black sakit sa ulo. mayat maya ang dumi...

[Louie_18]

Dumadami ang Innova Owners dito na girls ha...
:congrats: sa mga new rides nyo

[desertfox615]

what do you use to clean your dashboard? do you use any protectant like armor-all?

[Louie_18]

what do you use to clean your dashboard? do you use any protectant like armor-all?

Ako po I use lang damp cloth

[celina mae]

preno po muna bago engine break.. pag biglang engine break baka sumobsob yng pasahero nyo ma'am.. diesel pa naman...

nice black innova.. medyo konting sipag lang po ma'am mahirap mag alaga nang black sakit sa ulo. mayat maya ang dumi...

Sir,

Thanks sa advice, tutuo po yan sir, iba ang engine braking ng gasoline engine sa diesel kaya nanibago ako sa pag drive nitong diesel engine.

May share lang po, description from wikipedia about engine braking:

The term engine braking usually refers to the braking effect caused by throttle position induced vacuum in petrol (gasoline) engines. While some of the braking force is due to friction in the drive train, this is negligible compared to the effect from vacuum.

When the throttle is lifted less air is allowed to pass through the intake manifold, and the engine works against this vacuum. It is the deceleration of the engine against this vacuum which provides the braking effect.

Diesel engines vary fuel flow to control power rather than throttling air intake and maintaining a constant fuel ratio as petrol engines do. As they do not maintain a throttle vacuum, they are not subject to the same engine braking effects as petrol engines are.

Engine braking passively reduces wear on brakes and helps a driver maintain control of the vehicle. Active use of engine braking (shifting into a lower gear) is advantageous when it is necessary to control speed while driving down very steep and long slopes.

It should be applied before regular disk or drum brakes have been used, leaving the brakes available to make emergency stops. The desired speed is maintained by using engine braking to counteract the gravitational acceleration.

Improper engine braking technique can cause the wheels to skid (also called shift-locking), especially on slippery surfaces such as ice or snow, as a result of too much deceleration. As in a skid caused by over-braking, the vehicle will not regain traction until the wheels are allowed to turn more quickly; the driver must reduce engine braking (shifting back up) to regain traction.

Engine braking is intrinsically available in non-hybrid vehicles with gasoline-powered internal combustion engines, regardless of transmission type. In almost all cases, it is active when the foot is lifted off the accelerator, the transmission is not in neutral, the clutch is engaged and a freewheel is not engaged.


In hybrid electric vehicles like the Toyota Prius, engine braking is simulated by the computer software to match the feel of a traditional automatic transmission. For long downhill runs, the "B" mode acts like a lower gear, using higher RPMs in the internal combustion engine to waste energy, preventing the battery from becoming overcharged.

Medyo broad pala ang definition ng Engine Braking, to summarize, i need to adjust my driving habit

I hope wikipedia's explanation above may find helpful to others...in one way or the other

Regards,

Mae

[g2pharma]

preno po muna bago engine break.. pag biglang engine break baka sumobsob yng pasahero nyo ma'am.. diesel pa naman...

nice black innova.. medyo konting sipag lang po ma'am mahirap mag alaga nang black sakit sa ulo. mayat maya ang dumi...

[quote=celina mae;1701086]SiR,

Thanks po, orange ang kulay,magandang itakbo sa highway at kahit medyo mabilis ay stable ang takbo,since na malapad nga ang tires, yun nga lang kapag nasa 120-140 ka ay may humming sound na sa tires.

Pinacheck ko sa Honda Caloocan, then sabi nila ay mabigat daw ang wheels at tires kaya induce ng humming sound kapag mabilis.Anyway maximum speed discipline ko ay 120 lang po, inahabol ko lang minsan ang wala ding disiplina na mag cut sa toll ways ..he he he.

Black po ang innova ko, dsl G variant m/t, i choose m/t since sanay na po sa clutch at shift gear, medyo may fun kung may galaw ang kamay at paa sa driving di ba? medyo kakaantok po yata ang a/t,sorry po sa a/t owners, opinion ko lang po ito.In terms of convenience lalo na sa traffic ay maganda po ang a/t.

May ask lang po ako sa ating mga professional drivers at mechanic, I use to apply engine braking before stepping on the brake pedal naging habit na po sa driving ko, thats why i preferred m/t.

Ano po ba ang disadvantage ng Engine braking? ang alam ko lang po ay very smooth and fast ang deceleration and it's always a fun for me hearing the engine respond sound ...complain po ang kids ko the way I drive, mali daw po ang Engine braking???

Regards po and happy driving with care.

Enjoy po ako dito sa site, very helpful po ang mga members.

Mae[/quot

Ang ibig nyo po bang sabihin eh nagda down shift kayo.. say gear 5-4-3-2-1 until malapit na huminto tapos neutral then preno?? very active feet at kamay nyo kung ganun... well ginagawa ko po yan sa nlex bago mag exit sa tabang pag naboboring ako.. ok lang po yan basta sakto lang yun decceleration ng sasakyan nyo bago mag down shift para di sumubsob mga sakay nyo at di rin mapahirapan engine nyo...

actually sa 4th and 5th gear po di nyo marandaman engine braking. most of the time ginagamit po ang engine braking kung pababa yung kalsada lalo na at mahaba yung stretch ng kalsada na pababa like marcos hi way from baguio pag di ka gumamit engine brake dun at aasa k sa pitik ng pitik ng preno nakakalamang mamakat preno mo.

[kabatak]

Good day po. I just got my 2nd hand innova ( 2006 G A/T Gasoline) last week, so far i'm satisfied sa perfomance compare to my old Mitsu Adventure. Just have some few questions and I hope somebody could enlighten me

1. My gas consumption is playing from 6.5 to 7kms /L (City Driving) and 8-9kms/L ( Long Drive). Is this really normal on my variant/model?

2. I can hear the Engine Fan from inside during rev, again is this normal?

3. I had a semi-flat tire the other day, what i did was to put a jack first overnyt to sustain the psi of my tire. Now, i notice na nde na pantay ung tindig na oto ( Nainis tuloy ako sa sarili ko bakit jina-ckan ko pa hehehe) , Pano ko kaya mababalik sa dati ung height?

4. Last na po, everytime kakabig ako, laging may lumalagutok sa ilalim ( Driver Side), nung pinacheck ko sa mekaniko ko sabi sa body na daw ung problem, hayyyy... may naka experience na ba sa inyo nun?

I'll appreciate your comments guys.

Thanks!

[celina mae]

Dumadami ang Innova Owners dito na girls ha...
:congrats: sa mga new rides nyo

Thank you po sir, multipurpose talaga ang innova,ok na ok po sa camping nitong summer.

Mae

[celina mae]

[quote=g2pharma;1701189]

SiR,

Thanks po, orange ang kulay,magandang itakbo sa highway at kahit medyo mabilis ay stable ang takbo,since na malapad nga ang tires, yun nga lang kapag nasa 120-140 ka ay may humming sound na sa tires.

Pinacheck ko sa Honda Caloocan, then sabi nila ay mabigat daw ang wheels at tires kaya induce ng humming sound kapag mabilis.Anyway maximum speed discipline ko ay 120 lang po, inahabol ko lang minsan ang wala ding disiplina na mag cut sa toll ways ..he he he.

Black po ang innova ko, dsl G variant m/t, i choose m/t since sanay na po sa clutch at shift gear, medyo may fun kung may galaw ang kamay at paa sa driving di ba? medyo kakaantok po yata ang a/t,sorry po sa a/t owners, opinion ko lang po ito.In terms of convenience lalo na sa traffic ay maganda po ang a/t.

May ask lang po ako sa ating mga professional drivers at mechanic, I use to apply engine braking before stepping on the brake pedal naging habit na po sa driving ko, thats why i preferred m/t.

Ano po ba ang disadvantage ng Engine braking? ang alam ko lang po ay very smooth and fast ang deceleration and it's always a fun for me hearing the engine respond sound ...complain po ang kids ko the way I drive, mali daw po ang Engine braking???

Regards po and happy driving with care.

Enjoy po ako dito sa site, very helpful po ang mga members.

Mae[/quot

Ang ibig nyo po bang sabihin eh nagda down shift kayo.. say gear 5-4-3-2-1 until malapit na huminto tapos neutral then preno?? very active feet at kamay nyo kung ganun... well ginagawa ko po yan sa nlex bago mag exit sa tabang pag naboboring ako.. ok lang po yan basta sakto lang yun decceleration ng sasakyan nyo bago mag down shift para di sumubsob mga sakay nyo at di rin mapahirapan engine nyo...

actually sa 4th and 5th gear po di nyo marandaman engine braking. most of the time ginagamit po ang engine braking kung pababa yung kalsada lalo na at mahaba yung stretch ng kalsada na pababa like marcos hi way from baguio pag di ka gumamit engine brake dun at aasa k sa pitik ng pitik ng preno nakakalamang mamakat preno mo.

Sir,

Tama po,hindi maramdaman sa 5th to 4th gear, pero sa 4th to 3rd or 3rd to 2nd ay very effective po lalo na't medyo kabisado mo na ang behavior ng car mo ,synchronize mo na ang clutch at gas pedal.

Dito po sa new rides ko na innova dsl m/t, hindi ko po magawa yun, medyo hindi ganun kabilis ang braking deceleration response compared sa sedan gasoline engine.

Medyo familiar po ako sa Electrical braking ng Electric motor, wherein you can utilize the energy stored on it to regenerate power and acts as a generator to oppose the rotation-electrical braking, followed by mechanical braking which involves disk or a drum brakes.We call it zero speed, before applying mechanical breaking...sa crane at elevator po kasi ang line ko, so medyo familiar po sa types of braking, but not in combustion engine

Tried ko pong apply sa combustion engine, it seems the same principle! u can utilize the engine speed to act as a primary brake then apply the rubbing pad ( disk brake) for a nearly stop..to complete stop.I'm not after to save the brake linings, just want to prove the same power principle of rotary machines, very risk curiosity!

Lets say you're running at 80 kph, then shift your gear to Neutral, the car will continue to run! because you have already the power and momentum stored.By utilising this energy CORRECTLY, you can stop the car using its own power...dont rely on mechanical disk brake specially during emergency.

Well,please don't try or follow my braking technique! it may endanger yourself and the engine as well.

Share lang po,a friend of mine, girl din po siya at buo po ang loob. While running at 120 sa tollway at 5th gear ( in Jakarta,Indonesia)on the way to the airport, nagstop pong bigla ang nasa front niya, 5 vehicles banggaan sa front, she cannot rely anymore with her disk brakes alone to prevent the impact to the front vehicle, in a split of second she was able to shift the gear from 5th to 1st!!! very fast deceleration time..Save po sa accident...although damage ang Mechanical transmission ng car niya...uh

Ingat po sa driving,anything can happen.Don't forget the Engine Brake Power!!!

Mae