Toyota 5k or 3 months pala PMS?

**dr. d** · September 7th, 2014 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by andsmv

So the link suggests, let the consumer decides when to change oil based on driving condition indicated in the manual. Dapat sa lemon law ng pinas to pressure car dealer to ammend their automatic oil change policy. Thanks sa mga sumagot sa previous inquiry ko.

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actually, it seems to me that a side effect of the lemon law may be to "justify" the casas' insistence on "blind" adherence to the manual's service schedule.
we might just have painted ourselves into a little corner...

**homhomnova** · September 7th, 2014 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by crosswind

sir 15w50 yan yata gamit ko

Ganun ba sir.. 10k km ang oci mo using mineral oil? How's the texture and color ng oil mo? Nagpapalit ka ba ng oil filter in between 10k km?

**niky** · September 7th, 2014 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by dr. d

actually, it seems to me that a side effect of the lemon law may be to "justify" the casas' insistence on "blind" adherence to the manual's service schedule.
we might just have painted ourselves into a little corner...

Pretty much. The Lemon Law does not and cannot cover product issues due to misuse.

But the manufacturer should prove that the problem is due to misuse. So, while you won't get a denial of warranty on electrical problems or aircon problems for missing an oil change... the dealer can deny you warranty on engine issues for missing oil changes.

Personally, past 60,000 kilometers, I don't go to the dealer, anyway.

**Vodka** · September 12th, 2014 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by homhomnova

do you run your car for 10k km/miles on a mineral oil? How's the texture and color of your mineral oil?

you can't judge the condition of your oil by EYEBALLING it LOL

**[archie]** · September 12th, 2014 02:41 AM

^^ getting the feel of the oil is not eyeballing.

Edit: it's a legit question... A simple answer would do.

**homhomnova** · September 12th, 2014 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by [archie]

^^ getting the feel of the oil is not eyeballing.

Edit: it's a legit question... A simple answer would do.

galit yata sa mundo yung taong yun sir.. hayaan mo na lang.. kaligayahan nya yan ehh..

sana kung wala syang maisasagot na maganda ay tiniis nya na lang na wag mag type sa keyboard..

d naman nya sinagot yung tanong.. ano ba yan..

**shok** · September 12th, 2014 09:35 AM

I change oil every 10K on my 2000 Corolla (4AFE) since I got it 2nd hand at 47K+ Km odo way back 2006. Now it's at 202K+ km and has no major issues. I've changed thermostat due to non activation, radiator due to the plastic top cracking, alternator due to not charging, rebuild steering rack due to leak, but no issues related to engine lubrication. FC used to be 13-14Km/L but dipped to 11-12Km/l after full implementation of ethanol on gasoline. Now it remains steady at 11km/L average.
I've used Motul HTech, Mobil 1 0W40, Mag1 10W30, Delo Gold and Mobil Super 1000 so it's a mix and match of synthetic and dino oil over the years. The last 70K Km has all been dino oil.
Never used flushing oil, just drain and pour and no oil filter change in between.
However, around 70% of my drive is SLEX (Sucat to Santa Rosa) since this is my daily driver so it's rarely put on severe driving condition.
I guess older engines are more tolerant of extended OCI or I'm just lucky.
On our new corolla 3ZRFE, I intend to stick to 5K dino or 10K syn as advised by our SA for warranty purposes.

**ptk675** · September 12th, 2014 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor

I follow 5000 km interval for oil change using mineral oil. I normally log 10000km per year including a couple of long trips.
Now I am using synthetic oil which means I will change oil after a year. But my service advisor told me to change oil filter after 5000km. I am intent on follwing that advice.

I think I will have to check my oil regularly too. I only check it when we go to Metro Manila.
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This is what I do as well for my innova. OCI every 10k, oil filter change every 5k. and fuel filter change every 10k as well.

**dr. d** · September 12th, 2014 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Vodka

lots of wrong opinions on this thread. of course toyota wants to maximize profit! and we all know how little consumer protection we have here in 'pinas. so when <carmaker> says PMS every 1,000/1-month, everyone would oblige like (given what i've seen from a similar thread as this)

why don't you all try to run your cars for 10,000kms / 6-months on dino juice (except SEVERE). that's usually the manufacturer recommended interval. you'll discover that your car will be just fine!

read up:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/yo...anted=all&_r=0

take note those are MILES, not metric

Is this what you do to your own car, sir? Or are you quoting someone else's opinion?

**dr. d** · September 12th, 2014 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Vodka

you can't judge the condition of your oil by EYEBALLING it LOL

Of course we can't! One would need expensive equipment to "know the TRUE condition of your oil". Perhaps that is why we change our oil sooner than what some entities would want us to believe.
But everyone loves to see the dark oil draining from the engine during the oil change. It somehow justifies the expense incurred in the changing of the oil.