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    #21
    What's the difference among the Silver, Black and Red top engines?

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by basti08 View Post
    What's the difference among the Silver, Black and Red top engines?


    Redtop (high comp) 16V 1587cc (1.6liter) non TVIS
    Compression: 10.3 w/ piston cooler
    Power: 140BHP *7200rpm w/ 110lbs trq 4800rpm
    Bottom Block: 7 rib reinforced aluminum
    Fuel Metering: MAF (Japan) AFM (US)
    Injectors: 235cc

    Silvertop 20V 1587cc (1.6liter) Individual Throttle, VVT
    Compression: 10.5
    Power: 160BHP *7400rpm w/ 119lbs trq 5200rpm
    Top Head: Non polished port
    Bottom Block: aluminum
    Fuel Metering: AFM
    Injectors: 295cc

    Blacktop 20V 1587cc (1.6liter) Individual Throttle, VVT
    Compression: 11.0
    Power: 165BHP *7800 w/ 119lbs trq 5200rpm
    Top Head: polished port
    Bottom Block: lightened aluminum, lightened crank & lightened rod
    Fuel Metering: MAF
    Injectors: 295cc

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    #23
    torque available at 5200rpm?

    medyo mataas pala...

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    #24
    It's a 1.6. They really don't have much torque.

    If you're going for it... the Silvertop and Blacktop 20Vs give you the most naturally aspirated power. The 4AGZE is also a good engine, powerful and torquey, thanks to the supercharger.

    The old redtops are fun, but lack that "oomph"... 140 is a lot, but you can get nearly that much from tuning a regular 1.6... better to go all out.

    My pick? 3SGE. More accessible power low-down.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #25
    I think that depends on why do you need a more HP on your engine?
    Are you into a full time racing or just weekend racer and use it as a daily driven car?

    If you're a fulltime racer go with ST or BT. These engine performs well on
    high revs so definitely fuel consumption will sacrifice.

    If you'll be using it as an eveyday car and doesnt wanna get smoked by
    Honda's in Edsa or C5 get a 4efte engine you can go head to head on these cars. What's the advantage? Fuel consumption. But important thing is safety
    if you wanna race dont do it on the streets do it on the strip.

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    #26
    Hhmm…actually guys, I just want my little 1.3 to be a little bit more responsive and a bit more powerful than the other 1.3’s out there nalang. Would intake and exhaust system do me justice? Besides I’ve never driven a more powerful car than a 1.3 anyway.

    BDW, can a 1.1 engine outrun a 1.3? Assuming both are stocks.

    Again, a big thanks to you all who participated this forum.

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