fuel pump problem innova vvti

**Bolkow** · December 10th, 2013 08:02 PM

After every long drive and heavy traffic,engine is having a hard time starting after shutting down,will eventually start after cooling down for about 5 mins.and cranking 5x , replaced 1 year ago fuel pump,07 vvti G,2x na din nag pa OBD wala error code,new spark plugs,clean MAF sensor, replaced fuel filter, comments will be highly appreciated.txs

**vinj** · December 11th, 2013 09:53 AM

The VVTi is distributorless already right? The symptom seems to be connected to the ignition system; maybe the individual spark plug ignition coil might have an issue? Can you feel if it is unusually hot when the problems occur? On old, distributor-type vehicles, the culprit would be the distributor getting hot. I'd probably try to borrow a set of similar spark plug ignition coils from an Innova that is running well and try it out on the engine with the issues.

It's this part:

From: Toyota Corolla 2ZR-FE 1.8L I4 Engine Spark Plugs Replacement Guide - 2009 To 2013 Model Years - Picture Illustrated Automotive Maintenance DIY Instructions

**babynos01** · December 11th, 2013 10:17 AM

This is a weird but true story ... A complaint was received by the Pontiac Division of General Motors:

This is the second time I have written you, and I don't blame you for not answering me, because I kind of sounded crazy, but it is a fact that we have a tradition in our family of ice cream for dessert after dinner each night. But the kind of ice cream varies so, every night, after we've eaten, the whole family votes on which kind of ice cream we should have and I drive down to the store to get it.

It's also a fact that I recently purchased a new Pontiac and since then my trips to the store have created a problem. You see, every time I buy

vanilla ice cream, when I start back from the store my car won't start. If I get any other kind of ice cream, the car starts just fine.

I want you to know I'm serious about this question, no matter how silly it sounds: 'What is there about a Pontiac that makes it not start when I get vanilla ice cream, and easy to start whenever I get any other kind?'"

The Pontiac President was understandably skeptical about the letter, but sent an engineer to check it out anyway. The latter was surprised to be greeted by a successful, obviously well educated man in a fine neighborhood. He had arranged to meet the man just after dinner time, so the two hopped into the car and drove to the ice cream store. It was vanilla ice cream that night and, sure enough, after they came back to the car, it wouldn't start.

The engineer returned for three more nights. The first night, the man got chocolate. The car started. The second night, he got strawberry. The car started. The third night he ordered vanilla. The car failed to start.

Now the engineer, being a logical man, refused to believe that this man's car was allergic to vanilla ice cream. He arranged, therefore, to continue his visits for as long as it took to solve the problem. And toward this end he began to take notes: he jotted down all sorts of data, time of day, type of gas used, time to drive back and forth, etc. In a short time, he had a clue: The man took less time to buy vanilla than any other flavor. Why? The answer was in the layout of the store.

Vanilla, being the most popular flavor, was in a separate case at the front of the store for quick pickup. All the other flavors were kept in the back of the store at a different counter where it took considerably longer to find the flavor and get checked out. Now the question for the engineer was why the car wouldn't start when it took less time.

Once time became the problem — not the vanilla ice cream — the engineer quickly came up with the answer: vapor lock. It was happening every night, but the extra time taken to get the other flavors allowed the engine to cool down sufficiently to start. When the man got vanilla, the engine was still too hot for the vapor lock to dissipate.

Moral of the story: even insane-looking problems are sometimes real.

Read more at snopes.com: Ice Cream Cone Car

It happens sa 2005 crdi Tucson namin. Ewan ko kung may sira or what

**vinj** · December 11th, 2013 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by babynos01

This is a weird but true story ... A complaint was received by the Pontiac Division of General Motors:

This is the second time I have written you, and I don't blame you for not answering me, because I kind of sounded crazy, but it is a fact that we have a tradition in our family of ice cream for dessert after dinner each night. But the kind of ice cream varies so, every night, after we've eaten, the whole family votes on which kind of ice cream we should have and I drive down to the store to get it.

It's also a fact that I recently purchased a new Pontiac and since then my trips to the store have created a problem. You see, every time I buy

vanilla ice cream, when I start back from the store my car won't start. If I get any other kind of ice cream, the car starts just fine.

I want you to know I'm serious about this question, no matter how silly it sounds: 'What is there about a Pontiac that makes it not start when I get vanilla ice cream, and easy to start whenever I get any other kind?'"

The Pontiac President was understandably skeptical about the letter, but sent an engineer to check it out anyway. The latter was surprised to be greeted by a successful, obviously well educated man in a fine neighborhood. He had arranged to meet the man just after dinner time, so the two hopped into the car and drove to the ice cream store. It was vanilla ice cream that night and, sure enough, after they came back to the car, it wouldn't start.

The engineer returned for three more nights. The first night, the man got chocolate. The car started. The second night, he got strawberry. The car started. The third night he ordered vanilla. The car failed to start.

Now the engineer, being a logical man, refused to believe that this man's car was allergic to vanilla ice cream. He arranged, therefore, to continue his visits for as long as it took to solve the problem. And toward this end he began to take notes: he jotted down all sorts of data, time of day, type of gas used, time to drive back and forth, etc. In a short time, he had a clue: The man took less time to buy vanilla than any other flavor. Why? The answer was in the layout of the store.

Vanilla, being the most popular flavor, was in a separate case at the front of the store for quick pickup. All the other flavors were kept in the back of the store at a different counter where it took considerably longer to find the flavor and get checked out. Now the question for the engineer was why the car wouldn't start when it took less time.

Once time became the problem — not the vanilla ice cream — the engineer quickly came up with the answer: vapor lock. It was happening every night, but the extra time taken to get the other flavors allowed the engine to cool down sufficiently to start. When the man got vanilla, the engine was still too hot for the vapor lock to dissipate.

Moral of the story: even insane-looking problems are sometimes real.

Read more at snopes.com: Ice Cream Cone Car

It happens sa 2005 crdi Tucson namin. Ewan ko kung may sira or what

now i'm craving a banana split ice cream.

:D

**Gumusut_Amige** · July 3rd, 2017 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Bolkow

After every long drive and heavy traffic,engine is having a hard time starting after shutting down,will eventually start after cooling down for about 5 mins.and cranking 5x , replaced 1 year ago fuel pump,07 vvti G,2x na din nag pa OBD wala error code,new spark plugs,clean MAF sensor, replaced fuel filter, comments will be highly appreciated.txs

any update with your hard starting issue?

mine is experiencing strong engine vibration and casa told us that my aging 05 VVTI G innova needs #3 ignition coil replacement. however, mechanic is strongly recommending to replace them all. the quoted price per ignition coil in casa is a whooping 3950 pesos! if outside local price is somewhere near to the ridiculously high casa price, i'll try to order online.