2012 Fortuner and Hilux officially launched at NBC Tent

[blackknight_66]

interesting inputs lalo na sa speed/rpm issues . thanks also to those who shared pics.

[NovisNoah]

Sa mga naka test drive. compare sa Montero ano mas maganda riding comfort?
Papalitan na kasi ng mom ko yung 2006 na civic ko, montero and fortuner ang pinag pipilian ko ngayon.
Riding comfort and looks ng interior kasi ang tinitignan ko eh(ang babaw ).

Kanina galing na kami sa Mitsubishi, Gusto ko yung interior ng Montero kaso parang hindi ko gusto yung materials na ginamit.... Ok din yung may sariling control ng aircon sa 3rd row ng seat.

[niky]

So ang maganda hanapin ang SAE or EEC marking para mas makasisigurong TAMA (kung nasa tama ang operating condition) ang data.

But there is still the problem of market-specific emissions compliance and fuel quality or type... which is why there is now the voluntary SAE J1349 standard which requires a certain fuel type, the proper "operating" oil level and tighter control of temperatures... as under SAE standards, you can still gain 5-15 hp from running lower oil levels or thinner oil and/or running higher octane fuels.

And even then, you can't be sure whether the numbers quoted are for the local car or for other markets, as local dealerships don't actually have the equipment to test engines but rely on estimates from the plant. Sometimes rough estimates, as some engines are detuned for the local market in deference to the quality of the fuel we have here.

Thus... the only really telling number is trap speed in the quarter mile... because you can't fake that.

[tanskiee]

Sa mga naka test drive. compare sa Montero ano mas maganda riding comfort?
Papalitan na kasi ng mom ko yung 2006 na civic ko, montero and fortuner ang pinag pipilian ko ngayon.
Riding comfort and looks ng interior kasi ang tinitignan ko eh(ang babaw ).

Kanina galing na kami sa Mitsubishi, Gusto ko yung interior ng Montero kaso parang hindi ko gusto yung materials na ginamit.... Ok din yung may sariling control ng aircon sa 3rd row ng seat.

nagpunta din ako sa mitsubishi dealer dito sa amin, kasi rest mode muna yung jazz ko. tininggnan ko yung loob ng monty parang mahinang quality yung interior then maliit yung upuan sa harapan. malaki pa yung sa jazz.. mamaya sa toyota ako titingin..

[arsen]

But there is still the problem of market-specific emissions compliance and fuel quality or type... which is why there is now the voluntary SAE J1349 standard which requires a certain fuel type, the proper "operating" oil level and tighter control of temperatures... as under SAE standards, you can still gain 5-15 hp from running lower oil levels or thinner oil and/or running higher octane fuels.

And even then, you can't be sure whether the numbers quoted are for the local car or for other markets, as local dealerships don't actually have the equipment to test engines but rely on estimates from the plant. Sometimes rough estimates, as some engines are detuned for the local market in deference to the quality of the fuel we have here.

Thus... the only really telling number is trap speed in the quarter mile... because you can't fake that.

Yes
Very much agree

Like I said na rin

"certified available and attainable"
saka mas makasisigurong TAMA (kung nasa tama ang operating condition)

Medyo marami kasi yang operating conditions noh... heheh

[vinj]

tininggnan ko yung loob ng monty parang mahinang quality yung interior then maliit yung upuan sa harapan

If you're long legged, you may find the leg support of the Monty a bit wanting. Don't let size deceive you on real SUVs as they are ladder-on-frame designs so thus there usually is less legroom as compared to a monoque body you'll find on mini SUVs and sedans/MPVs.

[Tj_abs]

If you're long legged, you may find the leg support of the Monty a bit wanting. Don't let size deceive you on real SUVs as they are ladder-on-frame designs so thus there usually is less legroom as compared to a monoque body you'll find on mini SUVs and sedans/MPVs.

You are correct bossing. Limited space for a ladder frame set up but IMHO, it depends on how u define "a real SUV". there are many categories to choose from. Fortuner and montero are not perfect SUV's. There's a lot to compromise but at the end of the day, what is important is that you have a car( high clearance for poth holes,flood) which you can bring on or off road. If money and gas are not an issue with you and you want generous leg room/space, much better to buy expedition long wheel base version or chevorlet suburban long wb version. For sure, even a kitchen sink or a cow can accomodate with this kind of vehicle. Peace=)

[Tj_abs]

Consumer nowadays are very diligent and aware when buying a vehicle. " what you pay is what you get"

[Walter]

More like "You get what you pay for."