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  1. Join Date
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    #61
    Sir uls: Ganyan rin naman kasi ang sinasabi ko. I would just like to point out something which makes alot of people infuriated with the oil companies.

    So here. Let's keep using your cellphone analogy...

    BATCH 1 (6,000 selling price): 5 cellphones, bought at 5,000 each
    -Expected profit margin per phone sold: 1,000 pesos.

    *you sell three, and there are two phones remaining in stock.

    BATCH 2 (6,500 selling price): 5 cellphones, bought at 5,500 each
    -margins per phone sold: 1,000 pesos
    2 cellphones from batch 1 (bought at 5000 each)
    -margins per phone sold: 1,500 pesos.


    Sana malinaw na rin ang punto ko. Naiintindihan ko naman na yung cellphone/langis na nakuha ng mas mahal e mas mahal rin ang benta. Naiintindihan ko rin na yung rollback, hindi pwedeng instantaneous (option B minimizes losses, which is per se, really not wrong). Ang sinasabi ko lang naman, e sana yung cellphone/langis na nakuha ng mas mura, e ibenta rin ng mas mura.

    Ayan. Let's keep it cool, please. No point in losing our tempers.

    sir archie: Petron is at most, 40% government owned. There are circulating rumors that there might actually be a selloff. But this doesn't matter anymore, since Petron, which should have been the government's tool in indirectly influencing the price of petroleum and protecting the interests of the filipino people, is now as profit-oriented as its two "competitors".

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    #62
    ^^ IMO, tama... hindi instant yung up or down ng prices... thats why the oil companies pa piso piso per week increase/decrease nila.

    with petron, yep nothing more we can do... point lang is any company will protect its own revenue. either multinational, local, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scharnhorst View Post
    Sir uls: Ganyan rin naman kasi ang sinasabi ko. I would just like to point out something which makes alot of people infuriated with the oil companies.

    So here. Let's keep using your cellphone analogy...

    BATCH 1 (6,000 selling price): 5 cellphones, bought at 5,000 each
    -Expected profit margin per phone sold: 1,000 pesos.

    *you sell three, and there are two phones remaining in stock.

    BATCH 2 (6,500 selling price): 5 cellphones, bought at 5,500 each
    -margins per phone sold: 1,000 pesos
    2 cellphones from batch 1 (bought at 5000 each)
    -margins per phone sold: 1,500 pesos.


    Sana malinaw na rin ang punto ko. Naiintindihan ko naman na yung cellphone/langis na nakuha ng mas mahal e mas mahal rin ang benta. Naiintindihan ko rin na yung rollback, hindi pwedeng instantaneous (option B minimizes losses, which is per se, really not wrong). Ang sinasabi ko lang naman, e sana yung cellphone/langis na nakuha ng mas mura, e ibenta rin ng mas mura.

    Ayan. Let's keep it cool, please. No point in losing our tempers.
    if u read my posts, i never lost my temper. ung iba ang nag lose ng temper.

    meron dalawa o tatlo jan mainit ang ulo sakin.

    anyway back to topic:

    Yes i understand.

    Pwede naman ibenta sa old price ang old batch of cellphones.

    But the logical choice is still to raise the price of the old batch...

    keep in mind that the P1,500 profit margin is not clean profit.

    Part of the profit becomes puhunan again to be used to buy the more expensive batch.

    i'm sure if u are the businessman selling cellphones, u would do the same thing.
    Last edited by uls; October 25th, 2008 at 11:56 AM.

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    #64
    if u read my posts, i never lost my temper. ung iba ang nag lose ng temper.

    meron dalawa o tatlo jan mainit ang ulo sakin.

    anyway back to topic:

    Yes i understand.

    Pwede naman ibenta sa old price ang old batch of cellphones.

    But the logical choice is still to raise the price of the old batch...

    keep in mind that the P1,500 profit margin is not clean profit.

    Part of the profit becomes puhunan again to be used to buy the more expensive batch.

    i'm sure if u are the businessman selling cellphones, u would do the same thing.

    walang pumipigil sayo na ibenta mo ng tig isang milyon ang celphone na nabili mo ng 5k..ang tanong dito is it morally correct? na gipitin mo ang kapwa mo dahil sa in demand ang produkto mo? ito ang isa sa mga "key" subject dito "MORALS"...kung ganyan ka mag isip..malamang sa malamang...madami ka nung key subject...

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    #65
    If businesses operated out of compassion, there would be no businesses left.

    If a drug company operated out of compassion, then it shouldnt be charging hundreds of thousands of pesos for cancer drugs.

    wala ba awa ang drug companies?

    may cancer na nga ung tao, papahirapan pa ung tao sa pagbili ng napakamahal na gamot.

    Dapat maawa sila. Dapat ipresyo nila ayon sa kaya ng pasyente.

    If companies operated like that, they wouldnt last very long.

    Then there would be no more companies making cancer drugs.
    Last edited by uls; October 25th, 2008 at 04:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    If businesses operated out of compassion, there would be no businesses left.

    If a drug company operated out of compassion, then it shouldnt be charging hundreds of thousands of pesos for cancer drugs.

    wala ba awa ang drug companies?

    may cancer na nga ung tao, papahirapan pa ung tao sa pagbili ng napakamahal na gamot.

    Dapat maawa sila. Dapat ipresyo nila ayon sa kaya ng pasyente.

    If companies operated like that, they wouldnt last very long.

    Then there would be no more companies making cancer drugs.
    sablay na naman banat mo ULS, we are not saying here ako particularly kasama si JPDM at TRUE FAITH na ibase ang price ng Langis sa kakayahan ng pinoy sa pananalapi...

    ang sinasabi namin dito..e gawing makatao ang presyo dahil less than 70 dollars nalang per barrel sa world market ang presyo e sa KWENTA ng NEDA dapat less than 40 pesos ang diesel while 40pesos or less naman ang gasoline...

    kung ganyan ka mag isip or mangatwiran NATURAL MALULUGI talaga lahat ng me negosyo di lang ang mga drug company at ahem nag work din po ako sa abbott lab sa boni...

    ang tawag sa suhistyon mo e PALUSOT na wala sa lugar

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    #67
    Ibang klase talaga mga banat mo uls ah? Greed Yo!

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    #68
    Is that it?

    all this posting and flame baiting is just for a 5 - 7 pesos?

    kung nagkakarga ka ng 50 liters per week, magkano ba ang difference?

    P47 X 50 = P2,350

    P40 x 50 = P2,000

    P350 difference.

    Nagagalit kayo sa mga oil companies dahil sa P350 per week?

    Tumataas ang blood pressure nyo dahil sa P350 per week?

    insulting fellow tsikot members para lang sa P350 per week?

    Di ba kayo maka isip ng paraan para makatipid ng P350 per week?

    Itigil nyo ang pag Starbucks nyo.

    Bawasan nyo mga bisyo nyo.

    mag Sun SIM kayo.

    Wag na kayo bumili ng newspaper... lahat naman nasa internet

    Wag na kayo bumili ng mga magazine... lahat naman nasa internet

    Just examine your lifestyles...

    ang dali lang maka tipid ng P350 per week.
    Last edited by uls; October 25th, 2008 at 05:15 PM.

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    #69
    Quote Originally Posted by CoDer View Post
    Ibang klase talaga mga banat mo uls ah? Greed Yo!
    tol salamat akala ko kaming 3 lang nila JPDM, TrueFaith ang nakakapansin e

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoDer View Post
    Ibang klase talaga mga banat mo uls ah? Greed Yo!
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Is that it?

    all this posting and flame baiting is just for a 5 - 7 pesos?

    kung nagkakarga ka ng 50 liters per week, magkano ba ang difference?

    P47 X 50 = P2,350

    P40 x 50 = P2,000

    P350 difference.

    Di ba kayo maka isip ng paraan para makatipid ng P350 per week?

    Itigil nyo ang pag Starbucks nyo.

    Bawasan nyo mga bisyo nyo.

    mag Sun SIM kayo.

    Wag na kayo bumili ng newspaper... lahat naman nasa internet

    Wag na kayo bumili ng mga magazine... lahat naman nasa internet

    Just examine your lifestyles...

    ang dali lang maka tipid ng P350 per week.

    ilang milyon ba ang pilipino na dependent sa langis? ha? ilan? sa 5pesos bawat isa maski 25% lang market share makuha mo ilan na yun ha? anak ng kulugo talaga mangatwiran ang taong ito...

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