Suzuki APV [Merged Threads]

[typelogic]

[QUOTE=dr. d;3105410]

it seems, the starter just spinned but did not engage the flywheel.

if you car is MT, try push-starting it. if you succeed, then it's your starter system that's at fault. but that's "a good thing", because your starter system has only a few parts.
you might have to re-charge the battery first.

This is Suzuki APV manual. It's 6 months old. I don't understand why that needle moved. And t+8 hours later battery is almost dead. Fan not turning-on.

I did some internet research and read (cars general) that weak battery can induce a speedometer needlle movement. Is this true?

[dr. d]

[QUOTE=typelogic;3105418]

This is Suzuki APV manual. It's 6 months old. I don't understand why that needle moved. And t+8 hours later battery is almost dead. Fan not turning-on.

I did some internet research and read (cars general) that weak battery can induce a speedometer needlle movement. Is this true?

i don't know.
but if it is true, than you have your answer.
have your car seen by the mechanic.

if the problem is not the starter but the battery, possibilities include:
1. the battery has run its useful lifespan and has to be replaced.
2. it's the car's charging system that has failed, resulting in dead or dying battery. usual causes include loose electrical connections, a loose fanbelt, and defective alternator, all of which should be easily manage-able.

good luck.

[typelogic]

[QUOTE=dr. d;3105428]

i don't know.
but if it is true, than you have your answer.
have your car seen by the mechanic.

if the problem is not the starter but the battery, possibilities include:
1. the battery has run its useful lifespan and has to be replaced.
2. it's the car's charging system that has failed, resulting in dead or dying battery. usual causes include loose electrical connections, a loose fanbelt, and defective alternator, all of which should be easily manage-able.

good luck.

Suzuki mechanic already drive it into shop for further diagnosis. We spent 45 minutes with their handheld battery tool to jump start the car and observe it's charging rate. It seems it cannot hold charge. So either this the battery defect [97%] (can easily be tested if so) or an alternator problem [2%]. A 6 month old car with odo = 6000 does not wear down it's battery.

Mind you, what fan belt are you talking about? Can a fan belt influence battery charging?

Fuelling detail history of this vehicle is tracked and recorded apv_gas_odo.txt - Google Drive and at present exhibit a 8.3kpl. Visual graph here ---->Twitter

[dr. d]

[QUOTE=typelogic;3105460]

Suzuki mechanic already drive it into shop for further diagnosis. We spent 45 minutes with their handheld battery tool to jump start the car and observe it's charging rate. It seems it cannot hold charge. So either this the battery defect [97%] (can easily be tested if so) or an alternator problem [2%]. A 6 month old car with odo = 6000 does not wear down it's battery.

Mind you, what fan belt are you talking about? Can a fan belt influence battery charging?

Fuelling detail history of this vehicle is tracked and recorded apv_gas_odo.txt - Google Drive and at present exhibit a 8.3kpl. Visual graph here ---->Twitter

in some slow-selling cars, the battery may have been in the car, long before the car was purchased.
you may have had the car for only 6 months, but the battery may have been languishing in that car for 6 more months already, before you bought the car...
at any rate, many brand new cars have a 1 year battery warranty from date of purchase.

most alternators are rotated by a fan belt turned by the engine crankshaft.
a loose belt won't be able to turn the alternator effectively enough, resulting in poor electricity generation and poor battery recharging. eventually, the battery runs down.
i don't know if your car has an effective belt tensioner or not. testing for belt looseness is easy. owner's manual or google.

[typelogic]

[QUOTE=dr. d;3105563]

in some slow-selling cars, the battery may have been in the car, long before the car was purchased.
you may have had the car for only 6 months, but the battery may have been languishing in that car for 6 more months already, before you bought the car...
at any rate, many brand new cars have a 1 year battery warranty from date of purchase.

most alternators are rotated by a fan belt turned by the engine crankshaft.
a loose belt won't be able to turn the alternator effectively enough, resulting in poor electricity generation and poor battery recharging. eventually, the battery runs down.
i don't know if your car has an effective belt tensioner or not. testing for belt looseness is easy. owner's manual or google.

Indeed. The battery might already be older than the car. Anyway, Suzuki shop diagnosed it as defective battery. Battery under warranty, they replaced with motolite. And yes, I do remember now the fan belt role in charging, in my previous multicab repairs. My car now is back to business and I do hope no more surprises for at least 5 years.

[allanma]

[QUOTE=typelogic;3105692]

Indeed. The battery might already be older than the car. Anyway, Suzuki shop diagnosed it as defective battery. Battery under warranty, they replaced with motolite. And yes, I do remember now the fan belt role in charging, in my previous multicab repairs. My car now is back to business and I do hope no more surprises for at least 5 years.

I have heard many times before that car dealers put short-life batteries in their new units. Don't know what's the reason. But in your case I think a defective battery is better than a defective charging system.

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[Lin Dan]

[QUOTE=dr. d;3105563]

in some slow-selling cars, the battery may have been in the car, long before the car was purchased.
you may have had the car for only 6 months, but the battery may have been languishing in that car for 6 months already, before you bought the car...
at any rate, many brand new cars have a 1 year battery warranty from date of purchase.

most alternators are rotated by a fan belt turned by the engine crankshaft.
a loose belt won't be able to turn the alternator effectively enough, resulting in poor electricity generation and poor battery recharging. eventually, the battery runs down.
i don't know if your car has an effective belt tensioner or not. testing for belt looseness is easy. owner's manual or google.

Spot on doc!

The main reason I bought a smart car charger is to somehow revive any factory stock battery.

The fan belt's tightness would dramatically affect any moving part it is attached to. A loose one would usually let a high pitch squeaking sound a few seconds after you switch the engine.

[dr. d]

[QUOTE=allanma;3105782]

I have heard many times before that car dealers put short-life batteries in their new units. Don't know what's the reason. But in your case I think a defective battery is better than a defective charging system.

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the final catcher for replaced "defective" batteries or batteries that fail within the warranty period, is the battery manufacturer, not the car dealer.

[Zipspeed]

Good Morning
2005 APV auto trans with whining sound. Replaced na trans oil and added also additive but still the same. Any recommendation on what to do? Or a reliable transmission specialist/repair shop? thank you

[grss1982]

I've always heard anecdotal information that the APV is a gas guzzler. Is this really true? Also I'm quite surprised that it's engine is underneath the driver instead of the traditional configuration especially when it has a prominent "nose" in the front.