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  1. Join Date
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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    No, basta ayos pa shocks mo. Yung bushings may trick pala para matibay ang pagkakabit kapag pinapalitan. I don't know if it's true since hindi pa ako nagpapalit. Dapat daw compressed yung shocks, hindi gaya ng usual na nasa lifter. hehe
    This is true for all vehicles and bushings. Rubber bushings are not always just made of rubber, some bushings are sold with metal outer tubes and inner metal tubes where the rubber is fused to them.

    Installing them while on a lifter will create too much torsion on these rubber inserts that they will tear from the metal tubes.

    The correct way of mounting rubber bushings with metal sleeves is mount them without tightening them first. Lower the vehicle to the ground and use a maintenance pit/bay to torque the bolts. This becomes the zero position of the bushings. Your suspension moves up and down +/- 4 inches for example... better if it starts from zero.

    If you torque bushings while they are on a lifter, then this becomes its zero. Putting the vehicle on the ground will then put tension on the bushings right away which is the 4inch compression to ride height. When you hit bumps, it then adds another -4 inches to the compression which means a total of -8 inches compression of the suspension will mean a similar amount of tension on the bushings.

  2. Join Date
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    #32
    Quote Originally Posted by locoroco777 View Post
    pwede din kung may makita kang old SUV leafsprings that came from the same brand.....instead of using truck leaves na malamang titigas ang ride pero load capacity naman madagdagan....problema lang medyo mahirap maghanap....but worth it naman for sure...tumaas na, naimprove yung ride na para kang naka SUV, retained pa ang loading capacity....


    I think we can distinguish naman sa pic kahit papano kailangan lang titigan konti hehe...


    Wow, ganda talaga ng strada, yung "red" modified yung leaf spring nya sor?

  3. Join Date
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    #33
    The general rule that I see on all manuals is to torque to specs when vehicle is on ground...plus you have to "shake" the vehicle. Drive for a few miles then retighten.

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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Fotonista View Post
    Wow, ganda talaga ng strada, yung "red" modified yung leaf spring nya sor?

    yup sir...modified po....Less bouncy, an inch higher, retained comfort but improved if you ask me...

  5. Join Date
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    #35
    ano ba and difference ng flex ride suspension ng alterra sa typical na leaf spring setup?
    at saka ano tawag dun sa isang piece na straight na leaf spring ng strada?
    regarding dun sa load capacity, sabi ng mga kainuman ko [ewan ko lang kung lasing na], load ay depende sa ehe at bearing kasi yung leaf spring pag overload mag bend lang at tutukod yung support at syempre tikwas.

    Quote Originally Posted by ppcsurfr View Post
    This is true for all vehicles and bushings. Rubber bushings are not always just made of rubber, some bushings are sold with metal outer tubes and inner metal tubes where the rubber is fused to them.

    Installing them while on a lifter will create too much torsion on these rubber inserts that they will tear from the metal tubes.

    The correct way of mounting rubber bushings with metal sleeves is mount them without tightening them first. Lower the vehicle to the ground and use a maintenance pit/bay to torque the bolts. This becomes the zero position of the bushings. Your suspension moves up and down +/- 4 inches for example... better if it starts from zero.

    If you torque bushings while they are on a lifter, then this becomes its zero. Putting the vehicle on the ground will then put tension on the bushings right away which is the 4inch compression to ride height. When you hit bumps, it then adds another -4 inches to the compression which means a total of -8 inches compression of the suspension will mean a similar amount of tension on the bushings.
    nice info. sabi nga nila pag walang knowledge walang horsepower!
    mali pala mechanic ko. may ituturo na naman ako.. haha

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    #36
    Quote Originally Posted by ppcsurfr View Post
    This is true for all vehicles and bushings. Rubber bushings are not always just made of rubber, some bushings are sold with metal outer tubes and inner metal tubes where the rubber is fused to them.

    Installing them while on a lifter will create too much torsion on these rubber inserts that they will tear from the metal tubes.

    The correct way of mounting rubber bushings with metal sleeves is mount them without tightening them first. Lower the vehicle to the ground and use a maintenance pit/bay to torque the bolts. This becomes the zero position of the bushings. Your suspension moves up and down +/- 4 inches for example... better if it starts from zero.

    If you torque bushings while they are on a lifter, then this becomes its zero. Putting the vehicle on the ground will then put tension on the bushings right away which is the 4inch compression to ride height. When you hit bumps, it then adds another -4 inches to the compression which means a total of -8 inches compression of the suspension will mean a similar amount of tension on the bushings.
    nice to know that its indeed true although the mechanic was not able to explain it but just that its the best way to replace shock bushings.
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    #37
    Leaf springs are always ideal for these types of vehicles because they are intended for heavy loads, plus given its high center of gravity its weight wouldn't be as evenly distributed by the coil springs. Check out this article regarding leaf springs for heavy-duty vehicles - Why Do We Use Leaf Springs for Heavier Vehicles? - Roberts AIPMC Blog. Leaf springs may be old school but they've always worked for hauling big loads.

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