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    #251
    Quote Originally Posted by maculet View Post
    I am not sure kung ganon na kababa ang quality ng lahat product ng Advics. Example na lang sa brake master cylinder ng toyota revo ko. A toyota brand na gawa ng aisin japan cost 12k, yung Advics brand nasa P3,300, while yung FIC na may tatak pa na made in japan nasa 2,800, while yung mga taiwan brand nasa P1,800. I dont think nag price ang Advics just by its brand they also consider the quality. eto copy paste na lang corporate history for reference.

    Corporate History
    July 2001 Established ADVICS CO., LTD.
    October 2001 Started business.
    January 2002 Established ADVICS North America, Inc. in U.S.A.
    April 2003 Acquired two production bases in U.S.A from Sumitomo Electric Industries, Ltd.
    (ADVICS Manufacturing Ohio, Inc. and SAFA, L.L.C.)
    May 2003 Established ADVICS Asia Pacific Co., Ltd. in Thailand.
    August 2003 Established PT. ADVICS INDONESIA in Indonesia.
    February 2004 Established ADVICS Tianjin Automobile Parts Co., Ltd. in China.
    July 2004 Constructed the building of head office.
    Established Corporate Philasophy and Environmental Policy.
    November 2004
    Established ADVICS Guangzhou Automobile Parts Co., Ltd. in China.
    January 2005 Acquired ISO14001 Certification.
    December 2005 Established ADVICS Taiwan Automobile Parts Co., Ltd. in Taiwan.
    January 2007 Established ADVICS VISION 2015.
    April 2008 Established ADVICS EUROPE OFFICE in Belgium.
    Acquired aftermarket parts sales company from Sumitomo Electric Indudtries, Ltd. (S&E Brakes, Inc.)
    July 2008 ADVICS Tianjin Automobile Parts Co., Ltd. merged with Tianjin AISIN Automobile Parts Co., Ltd.
    April 2010 Acquired Kariya Plant and AS Brake Systems Inc. from Aisin Seiki Co., Ltd.
    July 2010 Acquired production bases in U.S.A from Aisin Seiki Co., Ltd.
    (ADVICS Manufacturing Indiana, L.L.C.)
    June 2011 Established ADVICS Changzhou Administration Co., Ltd. in China.
    July 2011 Established ADVICS Europe GmbH in Germany.
    Established ADVICS Fuzhou Automobile Parts Co., Ltd. in China.
    December 2011 Established ADVICS Manufacturing (Thailand) Co., Ltd. in Thailand.
    April 2012 Established ADVICS Yunfu Automobile Parts Co., Ltd. in China.
    August 2012 Established ADVICS North India Private Limited and ADVICS South India Private Limited in India.
    September 2012 Acquired ISO9001, ISO/TS16949 Certification.
    November 2013 Awarded the Deming Prize.
    February 2014 Established ADVICS Automotiva Latin America LTDA. in Brazil.
    Established ADVICS South Africa (Pty) Ltd. in South Africa.
    March 2014 Established ADVICS Manufacturing Czech s.r.o. in Czech Republic.
    June 2014 Established PT ADVICS MANUFACTURING INDONESIA in Indonesia.
    October 2014 Established ADVICS Manufacturing Mexico S. de R.L. de C.V. in Mexico.
    June 2015 Constructed the building of Technical center.
    January 2016 Constructed the Handa Plant.
    February 2018 Acquired a third-party allocation of new shares from HOSEI BRAKE INDUSTRY CO., LTD.
    April 2018 HOSEI BRAKE took over the drum brake business of Nisshinbo Brake Inc.(AH Brake Co., Ltd.)
    Different ang corporate history ni Advics O.E.M. sa Advics aftermarket, gumawa na sila ng solely aftermarket division just to handle the aftermarket.

    Maculet isipin mo ito how come P3,300 ang price ng Advics kung O.E.M. talaga na products ang binebenta niya vs. the aftermarket replacement brand/s like FIC na nasa P2,800?

    Can you believe that an OEM maker can price their products near and aftermarket replacement brand with only P500 pesos difference? That is only 15% price difference.

    Aisin's water pump that is being sourced from China is also even cheaper than GMB's water pump brand by 10~15%.

    The sources actually came from Aisin Aftermarket's Singapore employees which are unconsciously disclosing them to their friends or acquaintances which are working in different automotive companies in Singapore since Singapore is so small and population is also small they most likely know each other, lalo na if they are transferring jobs from one company to another. Hindi lang sila maingat na nagleleak yung information ng bawat company once puro kwentuhan and gossip tuwing may casual meet ups and etc... sila.

    Kahit Aisin Aftermarket Thailand and etc... maraming times nadudulas so may mga information nag slislip sa mga tao.

    Ibang iba ang quality ng Genuine parts na Advics from casa and Advics aftermarket, you can try to compare it by putting it side by side. Kahit sa disc brake pads palang mahahalata mo na ibang iba siya sa Genuine Car Maker parts na nabibili sa casa. Try buying disc brake pads for your Revo from Toyota car dealer and try buying the Advics Brake Star yellow box sa auto supply then compare them side by side. You'll be shocked the differences in the quality.

    Magkaiba na ang division ng OEM and Aftermarket replacement ng Aisin-Advics, kasama nadin ang different procurement process nila. Pero siyempre they are still not as worst as those imbento or house brands that are being sold to the market.

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    #252
    Quote Originally Posted by JapanABC View Post
    Different ang corporate history ni Advics O.E.M. sa Advics aftermarket, gumawa na sila ng solely aftermarket division just to handle the aftermarket.

    Maculet isipin mo ito how come P3,300 ang price ng Advics kung O.E.M. talaga na products ang binebenta niya vs. the aftermarket replacement brand/s like FIC na nasa P2,800?

    Can you believe that an OEM maker can price their products near and aftermarket replacement brand with only P500 pesos difference? That is only 15% price difference.

    Aisin's water pump that is being sourced from China is also even cheaper than GMB's water pump brand by 10~15%.

    The sources actually came from Aisin Aftermarket's Singapore employees which are unconsciously disclosing them to their friends or acquaintances which are working in different automotive companies in Singapore since Singapore is so small and population is also small they most likely know each other, lalo na if they are transferring jobs from one company to another. Hindi lang sila maingat na nagleleak yung information ng bawat company once puro kwentuhan and gossip tuwing may casual meet ups and etc... sila.

    Kahit Aisin Aftermarket Thailand and etc... maraming times nadudulas so may mga information nag slislip sa mga tao.

    Ibang iba ang quality ng Genuine parts na Advics from casa and Advics aftermarket, you can try to compare it by putting it side by side. Kahit sa disc brake pads palang mahahalata mo na ibang iba siya sa Genuine Car Maker parts na nabibili sa casa. Try buying disc brake pads for your Revo from Toyota car dealer and try buying the Advics Brake Star yellow box sa auto supply then compare them side by side. You'll be shocked the differences in the quality.

    Magkaiba na ang division ng OEM and Aftermarket replacement ng Aisin-Advics, kasama nadin ang different procurement process nila. Pero siyempre they are still not as worst as those imbento or house brands that are being sold to the market.
    Hindi tayo nagkaintindihan, I did not say same quality as OEM, but as an aftermarket part. Of course it will not be the same quality as OEM since sa pricing pa lang malaki na ang gap. May point is QUALITY may be the same as Japan aftermarket brand but not as a no brand made in china.


    Here is the sample box ng advics na binili ng kasama ko. For Advics brake pads may be same quality ng pambansang bendix, pass ako dyan, may akebono naman available for slightly higher price.
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    #253
    Quote Originally Posted by maculet View Post
    Hindi tayo nagkaintindihan, I did not say same quality as OEM, but as an aftermarket part. Of course it will not be the same quality as OEM since sa pricing pa lang malaki na ang gap. May point is QUALITY may be the same as Japan aftermarket brand but not as a no brand made in china.


    Here is the sample box ng advics na binili ng kasama ko. For Advics brake pads may be same quality ng pambansang bendix, pass ako dyan, may akebono naman available for slightly higher price.
    Actually Aisin/Advics doesn't sell that Advics Brake Star in the Japan domestic aftermarket because it will not be able to pass strict Japanese standards, that is why the Advics Brake Star yellow box is only available sa 3rd world countries like Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, India, Pakistan & etc... they don't offer that category sa ibang countries, yang Advics Brake Star yellow packaging matapang sa rotor discs yan, na test na yan ng ibang O.E. manufacturer yung web chart ng Advics Brake Star. Masmaayos yung Advics na blue box pag dating sa brake pads pero medyo pricey nga lang.

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    #254
    Quote Originally Posted by maculet View Post
    Hindi tayo nagkaintindihan, I did not say same quality as OEM, but as an aftermarket part. Of course it will not be the same quality as OEM since sa pricing pa lang malaki na ang gap. May point is QUALITY may be the same as Japan aftermarket brand but not as a no brand made in china.


    Here is the sample box ng advics na binili ng kasama ko. For Advics brake pads may be same quality ng pambansang bendix, pass ako dyan, may akebono naman available for slightly higher price.
    Trust me on the Advics yellow box brake pads, same or masmalakas pa sa Bendix kumaen ng disc rotors yan. May isang kaparehas na characteristics yung Advics yellow box brake pads sa isang lower standard na Malaysian brake manufacturer which is both very similar sa web chart ng testing for fade, effectiveness at 40km/h, effectiveness at 120km/h, pad wear & last but not the least disc rotor wear.

    Can you believe na ang Advics Brake Star yellow box for a Toyota Revo only cost P740 isang set para sa harap compared sa Bendix General CT P1,165 isang set. That goes to show how Advics stooped so low sa level ng brake pads market even able to price match a private/house label brand like LKC.

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    #255
    Quote Originally Posted by maculet View Post
    Hindi tayo nagkaintindihan, I did not say same quality as OEM, but as an aftermarket part. Of course it will not be the same quality as OEM since sa pricing pa lang malaki na ang gap. May point is QUALITY may be the same as Japan aftermarket brand but not as a no brand made in china.


    Here is the sample box ng advics na binili ng kasama ko. For Advics brake pads may be same quality ng pambansang bendix, pass ako dyan, may akebono naman available for slightly higher price.
    I agree with you on the hydraulic brake parts ng Advics kasi they matched that item category with FIC brand of hydraulic brake parts.

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    #256
    Brake rotors after 415,000km, ill stick with original pads


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    #257
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Brake rotors after 415,000km, ill stick with original pads


    astig nang 415,000 KM sir.

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    #258
    Bought front pads for my XT, Brembo NAO




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    #259
    Quote Originally Posted by atty.cadmus View Post
    astig nang 415,000 KM sir.
    Kimchi steel bro ahhahah. I cant believe na pwede pa since I go up and down mountains.

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    #260
    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Bought front pads for my XT, Brembo NAO




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    Can you post the link or contact numbers where you bought it?
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