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September 29th, 2019 08:22 PM #51from what i understand, they refused to have their autopsy findings reviewed by others.
in a live interview in kabayan's morning radio program, several weeks ago,
two of the four guests, said that their so-called denggoyvaxia victims, based on the interview alone, had other serious illness that, in my opinion, could very well have been the cause of their demise.Last edited by dr. d; September 29th, 2019 at 09:31 PM.
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September 29th, 2019 10:39 PM #52
^ hindi na kailangan ng validation basta kung ano sinabi ni erfe at acosta tangapin nyo na lang yun
I'm not that DUMB
For all we know those numbers mentioned by oj88 is bloated and worse those kids could have died of other illness not related to dengvaxia
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September 30th, 2019 12:13 AM #53How about looking at the long term safety analysis conducted by Sanofi Pasteur itself? It's important to note that Dengvaxia does NOT directly cause severe dengue but it significantly increases the risk of having one on seronegative individuals.
Dengvaxia is safe IF used properly hence the conditional recommendation by WHO and Sanofi. The problem is there are no accurate tests yet to determine previous dengue infection on an individual other than a medical record.
The pro immunization side pointed out that no such study could be done because the public school immunization program for Dengvaxia only reached the second phase or injection #2 instead of the full three injections required. That in itself would tell me that any claims against Dengvaxia being deadly or useless is weak if not viable because the vaccine program was never completed and therefore rendered useless.
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September 30th, 2019 12:12 PM #54
I admit that those figures were cited off an article and I cannot validate it independently. But, I'll leave this here to support the narrative that the Dengvaxia vaccine does have a negative effect on seronegative patients.
The possibility of risk for seronegative people was raised by WHO and published in a position paper in July 2016: “…vaccination may be ineffective or may theoretically even increase the future risk of hospitalized or severe dengue illness in those who are seronegative at the time of first vaccination regardless of age.
The full WHO position paper: https://www.who.int/wer/2016/wer9130.pdf
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September 30th, 2019 12:19 PM #55
mga dilawan sarado ang isip
the only argument they come up with is nobody can prove all those people died of side effect of dengvavia
WHO, US FDA, EU authorities all state the same warning: Dengvaxia is not for dengue-naive
PERIOD
the mass vaccination conducted in PH DID NOT test the subjects individually if previously infected or not
for sure there are subjects who are dengue-naive who got the vaccine
they used AGE as the filter (9 yrs old up)
Sanofi assumed people age 9 and up have already been infected
Wrong
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September 30th, 2019 12:22 PM #56
the WARNING came after the clinical trials
during the mass vaccination in PH (which was really a clinical trial) Sanofi was still not sure if the vaccine is dangerous to dengue-naive
it was after the clinical trial that they confirmed it
then the developed world approved the vaccine with the warning label
ginawa lang experimento ang PH
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kahit paulit ulit mo ipakita sa mga dilawan ang warning label, they will just ignore it
coz they see this as a political issueLast edited by uls; September 30th, 2019 at 12:26 PM.
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September 30th, 2019 12:28 PM #57
ganyan talaga tingin ng foreigner sa 3rd world
Africa, Southeast Asia, Latin America... mga guinea pigs nila
backward countries with easily corruptible governments
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November 6th, 2019 08:51 AM #58
DOH confirms 4th polio case in Philippines | Inquirer News
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November 6th, 2019 09:00 AM #59ibalik ang tiwala sa vaccination!
walang ibang paraan.
food for thought:
while 95% of people who contract the polio virus have no symptoms, they can still infect others.
only 1-5% of those who contract the polio virus, come down with the paralytic symptoms that the commonfolk are familiar with.
translation: for every one person that gets afflicted with the paralysis attributed to polio, there are as many as 99 people out there that have the virus to spread around, even as they have absolutely no symptoms.
get vaccinated and be protected.
have your children vaccinated and have them protected. hey! this is one of the few vaccines that do not come with a needle! pinapatak lang ito sa bibig at linululon lang po ito.Last edited by dr. d; November 6th, 2019 at 09:26 AM.
Choice I would have made as well.:nod:
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