The Perpetual NBA Thread

**cardo** · February 14th, 2008 03:13 PM

Kidd trade hits a snag!

All because of Devean's contract haha

**ILuvDetailing** · February 14th, 2008 03:46 PM

the Kidd trade is still has legs...

Hours after vetoing the trade that would bring Jason Kidd to Dallas, Devean George missed all 11 of his shots after starting for the Mavericks on Wednesday.

:evillaugh

Wow. George said afterwards that his decision to block the trade is not final, and that he wants to have time to talk to agent Mark Bartelstein, who will explain to George exactly what he'd be giving up by waiving his no-trade rights. "He wants to wait until I talk to him and he explains everything to me about what's going on before we do anything," George said. "I'm the bad guy that's holding things up." Well, he could lessen the blow slightly by hitting some shots when he gets a rare start for Dallas.

**shadow** · February 15th, 2008 09:10 AM

on shaq-phoenix trade, IMO it's a good deal, they have marion for the past several seasons did they win any champioship? shaq will give them a solid presence in the middle which any western team needs come playoff time... it's a little tweak that might bring them all the way...

on george's veto power...way to go!!!! :rockon:

mark cuban :****::****:

I think george is still gold and purple at heart and still trying to protect the lakers...hehehehe

**empy** · February 15th, 2008 09:19 AM

basta as a Heat fan masaya ako sa trade...i thought we couldn't give Shaq away because of his terrible contract and quickly declining production...to get one of the league's most underrated and versatile stars is no less than a steal.

this may prove to be a genius move or a colossal blunder for the Suns, but for the Heat it's nothing but upside. they weren't going anywhere with Shaq, and Marion actually provides them financial flexibility (FA next season) :clap:

**theveed** · February 15th, 2008 12:21 PM

uh oh...

Bryant chooses rest over surgery for injured finger
February 14, 2008 EL SEGUNDO, Calif. (AP) -- Kobe Bryant was diagnosed with a torn ligament in his right pinkie finger Thursday and the Lakers All-Star has decided not to undergo surgery that could sideline him for six weeks.
The damage occurred when Bryant dislocated the finger at New Jersey on Feb. 5, and was aggravated in Wednesday night's game at Minnesota.
The team said Thursday that the damage was more extensive than first believed. There is a complete tear of the radial collateral ligament and avulsion fracture, in which a small bone fragment had been pulled off by a tendon.
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Bryant was examined in Los Angeles by Dr. Steven Shin, a hand specialist who recommended surgery to repair the ligament.
"My current thinking is to give my finger some treatment and rest for a few days, and hope I can still continue to compete at a high level after that rest," Bryant said in statement.
"I would prefer to delay any surgical procedure until after our Lakers season, and this summer's Olympic Games. But this is an injury that myself and the Lakers medical staff will just have to continue to monitor on a day-to-day basis."
It was unclear if Bryant will play in Sunday's All-Game at New Orleans. But he will skip the 3-point shooting contest, with Dirk Nowitzki of Dallas replacing him.

As for the Heat, I think they stole Marion, as long as he re-signs with the Heat next year...

If they can only grab a young Zo-like rebounder and defensive player, they'll go far in the east...

**cardo** · February 15th, 2008 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by theveed

If they can only grab a young Zo-like rebounder and defensive player, they'll go far in the east...

ben wallace?

**theveed** · February 15th, 2008 05:11 PM

Zo like, hindi Fro-like hehehe

**theveed** · February 15th, 2008 05:57 PM

Hehe... Yari

League to look at Stackhouse's comments
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
February 15, 2008 NEW ORLEANS – As the New Jersey Nets and Dallas Mavericks feverishly worked to convince Devean George to join in the trade for Jason Kidd on Thursday, there suddenly loomed another issue that could obliterate the proposed deal: the loose lips of Jerry Stackhouse.

The NBA will investigate the possibility the Mavericks and Stackhouse violated league rules with a pre-arranged agreement for the forward to return to Dallas after reaching a contract buyout in New Jersey and sitting out the 30-day waiting period, sources said. Several league sources said the NBA will consider forbidding Stackhouse to re-sign with the Mavericks this season as punishment for public comments the forward made on Wednesday that suggested tampering could’ve occurred.

If it comes to that, the deal is dead. Dallas owner Mark Cuban wouldn’t complete the trade for Kidd without a belief that he could eventually bring back Stackhouse this season. Ultimately, sources say, Mavericks management decided that losing Stackhouse would be too hard of a hit to the Mavericks’ depth, too steep a price to pay for Kidd.

For the Mavericks, the trouble started when Stackhouse, 33, gave an interview to the Associated Press on Wednesday that suggested there was a plan for how his trade, buyout and eventual re-signing with Dallas would unfold.
Stackhouse said that he was only part of the deal “to make the numbers work.”

What’s more, he said, “I feel great. I get 30 days to rest then I’ll be right back. I ain’t going nowhere.”

Even if George changes his mind on Friday about agreeing to waive his “Early Larry Bird Rights” and accept the trade to New Jersey, sources said the league office will not immediately approve the trade. With angry rival executives across the league expressing outrage over Stackhouse’s comments, as well as the NBA’s own issues and suspicions with the comments, Senior VP of Basketball Operations Stu Jackson is obligated to look deeper into the matter.

The NBA doesn’t allow such pre-arranged agreements. The rest of the league is required to have a fair chance to sign Stackhouse in the 30 days before he’s eligible to re-sign with the Mavericks. It doesn’t help appearances that Stackhouse and Kidd share the same agent, Jeff Schwartz.

When several league executives read Stackhouse’s comments on Wednesday, they were irate and privately promised to protest if Stackhouse ends up passing on league-wide offers and returns to the Mavericks.

“It sounds like a side deal, doesn’t it?” one Eastern Conference executive said. “The league will have a lot of explaining to do if Stackhouse goes back to Dallas.”

Another general manager said, “I thought it was the most blatant statement someone could make about a trade. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the league disallowed Stackhouse to go back to Dallas. Stackhouse is too impulsive and is prone to say stuff like that which could really end up hurting Dallas.”

Finally, a third GM said, “It’s caused a lot of people to wonder how they could get away with that, how those kind of pre-existing arrangements can be allowed.”
For now, it is clear the trade that would send Kidd and Malik Allen to Dallas for George, Stackhouse, Devin Harris, DeSagana Diop and Maurice Ager, two first-round picks and $3 million is stuck. Before the Mavericks’ 109-97 loss to the Suns in Phoenix on Thursday night, agent Mark Bartelstein insisted that his client hadn’t changed his mind about vetoing his trade to the Nets.

“There’s nothing new,” Bartelstein said. “Right now, he’s just focusing on playing for the Mavericks.”

Between now and next Thursday’s trade deadline, the Nets and Mavericks are exploring scenarios that still include George and a sign-and-trade with Keith Van Horn, but the Stackhouse case could make everything else irrelevant. Across the league, there’s a belief that Stackhouse revealed too much with this words and the NBA plans to take a hard look and ask the obvious question: Is there strong enough evidence of a pre-existing agreement between the Mavericks and Stackhouse that deserves punishment? If they league decides there is, and refuses to let him re-sign with the Mavericks, the results could be devastating for Dallas.

No trade.

No Kidd.

It would be a steep price to pay for the loose lips of Jerry Stackhouse.

**theveed** · February 17th, 2008 09:48 AM

Hawks to send 4 players to Kings for point guard Bibby
By CHARLES ODUM, AP Sports Writer
February 16, 2008

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ATLANTA (AP) -- The Atlanta Hawks traded four players and a draft pick on Saturday for Mike Bibby, the point guard they hope will end the league's longest streak without a playoff appearance.

The Hawks sent starting point guard Anthony Johnson, 2007 first-round pick Shelden Williams, backup point guard Tyronn Lue, veteran forward Lorenzen Wright and a 2008 second-round pick to the Kings.
The trade is pending league approval and physicals.

Hawks spokeman Arthur Triche said Bibby is expected to join the team in Los Angeles on Monday, where he will have his physical. The Hawks play at the Lakers on Tuesday night.

Bibby, a 10-year veteran, missed the start of the season with a thumb injury but is averaging 13.5 points and 5.0 assists in 15 games.

"I want to thank Mike for his terrific all-around play," Kings president Geoff Petrie said in a statement. "He's had a great run here as a King and has participated in and contributed to some great moments on the court and I wish him all the best."

One of the Hawks' owners, Michael Gearon Jr., said his team's new backcourt of Bibby and All-Star Joe Johnson "will be as good as any in the East."

"I think Bibby will be one of the top three point guards in the East," Gearon said.

"He's capable of going one-on-one, hitting clutch shots, breaking defenses and leading this team."

The Hawks, in ninth place in the Eastern Conference and percentage points behind the eighth and final playoff spot, are trying to make the postseason for the first time since 1999.

Also on Saturday, the Kings requested waivers on forward Justin Williams and guard Dahntay Jones.

"We're excited about adding another young frontcourt player who was the fifth pick of the 2006 draft in Williams, along with some experienced veterans to the team," Petrie said. "We're looking forward to seeing how they integrate in with the rest of our roster."