The Perpetual NBA Thread

**tsupermario** · September 20th, 2007 06:56 PM

miami is making moves to dump j-will? hopefully they'll get pietrus

**theveed** · September 21st, 2007 02:37 PM

I wonder how Charlie Bell will work out... The Bucks seems to be willing to screw him by giving him the money by matching Miami's offer but there's no way they'll treat him well after what Bell has said hehe. Is Bell required to take the Bucks' offer since he's restricted?

**pajerokid** · September 21st, 2007 02:53 PM

yup, i think so.

**ssaloon** · September 21st, 2007 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by tsupermario

miami is making moves to dump j-will? hopefully they'll get pietrus

The heat have abandoned the pursuit of Pietrus after GSW rejected their offers.

Kawawa si Bell. All set to suit for Miami, biglang tinapatan yung offer sheet ng Bucks... Pero it looks likfe he'd rather play in Europe than return to Milwaukee.

**ILuvDetailing** · September 21st, 2007 03:35 PM

Veed' pick up mo na si Charlie Bell sa Waivers

**theveed** · September 21st, 2007 03:38 PM

I have Mo, don't need him anymore hehe

**zidane21** · September 21st, 2007 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by M54 Powered

speaking of fantasy b-ball, if this guy ever makes it into the league i'm definitely going to draft him

http://espn.go.com/nba/news/2002/0711/1404719.html

magiging puro *bleep* ang maririnig po natin sa mga pacers games kung ganun po!

**empy** · September 21st, 2007 08:09 PM

yes, if the Bucks match Bell then it's binding. he's a Buck.

the Bucks wouldn't have matched Bell if they didnt want him around and want to use him. he played very well at 3 positions (even SF!) during their injury plagued season and with TJ Ford gone, they really need someone to back up Mo.

**tsupermario** · September 21st, 2007 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by ssaloon

The heat have abandoned the pursuit of Pietrus after GSW rejected their offers.

Kawawa si Bell. All set to suit for Miami, biglang tinapatan yung offer sheet ng Bucks... Pero it looks likfe he'd rather play in Europe than return to Milwaukee.

bell and mo williams have the same agent. probably they just used miami to jack up the bucks' offer

kirilenko sez he would rather play in russia than return to the jazz. kirilenko for the wizards' jamison sounds interesting :D

**chain** · September 21st, 2007 10:01 PM

I think this is the article about kirilenko:

As evidence of his conviction to leave Utah, Andrei Kirilenko said in an interview with a Russian newspaper published Thursday that he is willing to walk away from the $63 million left on his contract.
"I am prepared to go without it,'' Kirilenko told the Sport Express newspaper. "This is a lot of money, even for an NBA club. So what. Maybe this money could go to pay for more players or for something else.
"I have never been unfair and I don't want to enjoy something that I don't deserve. Big money is obviously good, but I am prepared to make less. The size of my salary doesn't mean that much for me. The main thing is to play with a spark."
The interview is available at www.sport-express.ru and was translated from Russian by a Tribune staff member. Even Kirilenko admits the chances of voiding the contract are small, and the Jazz expect him to report for training camp by Oct. 1.
It is the second time in three days Kirilenko has voiced his desire to move on, this time saying, "I am ready for anything. I just need to leave Utah Jazz." He said he is willing to be traded to any team, even one with a lackluster cast of coach and players.
"The only thing I'm not prepared for is if I'm told, 'Andrei, we want you to stay anyway,' '' Kirilenko said. "I'm sure then the next season would be a repetition of the previous one, and what will the fans say
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then? How could you possibly rely on a player who wants to leave?"
Some of Kirilenko's strongest feelings are saved for the possibility of playing in Russia. As long as he is under contract to the Jazz, that cannot happen because the NBA and FIBA honor each other's contracts.
Asked where he would like to continue his career, Kirilenko answered, "Most likely in Russia." The country's top team is CSKA Moscow in the Euroleague, for which Kirilenko played for three seasons; Kirilenko this month led the Russian national team to the European championship.
"I would like to be where I am needed and right now I feel that my country needs me,'' Kirilenko said. "But I cannot exclude some European clubs. Trust me, I really am prepared to leave NBA. It certainly does not mean that I'm dying to go to Europe. I'm just ready."
The Jazz agreed earlier this summer to release Derek Fisher from his contract, citing the medical needs of Fisher's year-old daughter, but they have no plans to do the same for Kirilenko, whose deal runs through 2010-11.
If Kirilenko is willing to forgo the $63 million he is owed, the Jazz could negotiate a buyout for an amount all the way down to zero, as they did with Fisher. That would leave Kirilenko a free agent able to sign with any team and give the Jazz substantial salary-cap flexibility.
Kirilenko will not be fined or suspended by the Jazz for his comments, but would face such action if he failed to report to camp.
This also could be the last heard from Kirilenko until the Jazz's media day. Masha Kirilenko wrote in an e-mail Thursday that her husband would be available for an interview, then reversed course later in the day.
She wrote that his agent had received a warning from the NBA that Kirilenko was likely to be fined if he continued talking about the Jazz. "According to him, players are not supposed to talk openly about things like this unless they wanna be fined," Masha wrote.
In acknowledging the slim odds of being released from his contract, Kirilenko said, "I just want to explain to everybody what I think and feel and that I could sacrifice my career with the NBA."
Once again Kirilenko unfavorably contrasted Jazz coach Jerry Sloan with Russia's David Blatt, even using Sloan's words to make his case for wanting to leave.
"Last year, we had a conversation with him,'' Kirilenko said, "and Sloan said, 'Andrei, if you don't like something about the way I conduct training, you could always break the contract with the Jazz.' So that's exactly what I want to do now!"
Kirilenko said he didn't want to lose another year or two playing for Sloan, who told him the Jazz would do things this season the same way they always have. He also said he talked with Jazz owner Larry Miller while he was in Spain for EuroBasket.
"It seems like Larry understood me,'' Kirilenko said. "But he will make the final decision himself, obviously."
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* MICHAEL NAKORYAKOV contributed to this report.
"I would like to be where I am needed and right now I feel that my country needs me. But I cannot exclude some European clubs. Trust me, I really am prepared to leave NBA."