The Perpetual NBA Thread

**ssaloon** · September 5th, 2003 11:21 AM

Top games to watch in 2003-04

**kimpOy** · September 5th, 2003 11:31 AM

thomas is the first coach of oneal sa pacers,
after the 2000 finals stint, bird retired and all except reggie stayed sa pacers.

saw some highlights sa summer league,
and lebron james is awesome to watch.

**kimpOy** · September 9th, 2003 10:44 AM

grant hill still not to play until 2004-2005 season,

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1611866

**ssaloon** · September 9th, 2003 11:38 AM

what's new?

**kimpOy** · September 9th, 2003 11:45 AM

palagay ko alam na ng detroit yan na may cheese-like ankle si grant hill, kaya trade siya for unproven ben wallace before.

**kimpOy** · September 9th, 2003 12:23 PM

saw MTV Cribs last night
yung kotse ni rasheed wallace
1996 Ford Bronco
1996 Hummer 1

he..he
old school na old school pati shoes niya Nike Air Force 1

**ssaloon** · September 11th, 2003 12:34 PM

UPDATE:
Report: Patterson requests trade

**kimpOy** · September 11th, 2003 02:35 PM

apog niya,
he's been on the trading last season pa
no takers for him,

*** offender kasi,
pangit sa image ng team,
i'll rather get junk yard dog bago
yan self-proclaimed kobe-stopper

**ssaloon** · September 12th, 2003 04:02 PM

UPDATE:

Jazz sign Hawks G Terry to offer sheet

Lenard agrees to multiyear deal with Nuggets

**ssaloon** · September 13th, 2003 11:07 AM

UPDATE:
Knicks chasing Nick the Quick
Knicks fans take heart. It appears that Scott Layden has finally awoken from his summer slumber.

Several league sources told Insider on Thursday afternoon that the Knicks are making a serious play for Nick Van Exel.

According to the sources, the Knicks have been talking on and off again about acquiring Van Exel from the Warriors ever since the trade with Dallas went down last month.

The Knicks' offer over the last few days has gotten better. It originally included the likes of Clarence Weatherspoon (who's already done his tour of duty with the Warriors). However, the latest has the Knicks offering Charlie Ward and Kurt Thomas to Golden State in return for Van Exel.

The New York Daily News, in today's editions, is also reporting a variation of these trade talks.

Van Exel just happens to be in New York this week for a charity event. He told the New York Times on Wednesday that he'd "love to play for the Knicks." Van Exel is close friends with Antonio McDyess and has been pining to play in New York ever since McDyess was traded there last summer. The Knicks had several talks with the Mavericks over the last year, but were never able to get anything done.

The move has both its pros and cons for New York. Van Exel would give the team the up-tempo bundle of energy at point guard that coach Don Chaney has been seeking. However, losing Thomas, the team's starting center, is a high price to pay. Thomas led the team in rebounding, blocked shots and was third in scoring last season.

The move makes much more sense for Golden State. Van Exel has made it clear he doesn't want to play there, and the Warriors are unlikely to make the playoffs in the West, even if Van Exel plays well.

The move would help them clear cap space immediately. Ward is in the last year of his contract and also has a $2 million buyout this season. Thomas has two years remaining on his contract. If the Warriors pulled the trigger on the trade, they would be roughly $7.5 million under the cap next season.

If the Warriors were to re-ignite trade talks with the Grizzlies and send Erick Dampier to Memphis for Wesley Person, they could be closer to $15 million under the cap next season.

The big question is whether the Warriors are willing to pull the trigger. Some within the front office (read Chris Mullin) believe that the acquisition of veterans Van Exel and Robinson would make the Warriors more competitive this season -- even with the loss of Gilbert Arenas and Antawn Jamison, the team's two leading scorers.

Others within the front office feel that the West is too tough, Van Exel is too unpredictable and that the team should take advantage of the chance to save a lot of money. They also believe that Thomas gives them some much-needed toughness on the front line. Troy Murphy was the starting power forward last season for the Warriors, but toughness wasn't his forte.

If the trade doesn't go through, Van Exel's agent, Tony Dutt, said his client will report, reluctantly.

"He'll report," Dutt told the Contra Costa Times. "He's obviously disappointed. He was in an enjoyable situation in Dallas. But he's a professional. If they don't move him, he'll be there. He's going to show up."

Dutt hinted that there's a chance that the Warriors will trade Van Exel.

"There are still options," Dutt said. "There are things that are out there that are probably better for the team and Nick. Better for everyone. If not, he'll show up, and we'll make a decision later when we have control. Look, Nick is a pro. Is he excited? No, he's not. Nick wants to win now. Not that the Warriors don't, but Nick has time constraints."

Although, from the outside, it may seem like a slam dunk deal for the Warriors -- don't hold your breath Knicks fans. There seems to be enough people in Golden State clinging to a playoff mirage to kill this thing before it ever gets off the ground.