The Perpetual NBA Thread

**aann** · January 5th, 2005 01:16 PM

d nasama yng 55 pts para $55,000?? sayang!...

medyo out of topic: Si Michael Schumacher $10M iddonate nya!

**ram** · January 5th, 2005 01:24 PM

jermaine o'neal had 55 points on 18/28 fg shooting. it's his career high and nba season best. tinambakan ang bucks 116-99.

spurs won over kobe's lakers

100-83.

**ram** · January 7th, 2005 04:43 PM

going retro pala cavaliers ngayon

http://www.nba.com/history/uniforms_cavaliers.html

parang mas ok pa rin yung present uniform nila

**kimpOy** · January 7th, 2005 05:23 PM

Fans shunning Kobe Bryant's jersey
By RUKMINI CALLIMACHI, Associated Press Writer
January 6, 2005

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- Kobe Bryant is no longer a fashion icon.

For the last month, Bryant's No. 8 Lakers jersey -- previously one of the best sellers in the world -- has fallen out of the top 50, according to point-of-sale data tabulated by a Florida market research firm.

Bryant's NBA jersey was still the 10th-highest selling jersey for the year, but he finished the month of December at No. 72 -- and in one week plunged to No. 90, a drastic slide for the player many once saw as the sport's next marketing golden boy.

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``I would never have thought it would have dropped off like this,'' said Neil Schwartz, director of marketing and business development for SportsScanINFO in West Palm Beach, which tracks weekly sales data from sporting goods retailers nationwide.

Bryant's marketability has likely been hurt by the flurry of bad press he's been receiving lately, analysts say. It began with his rape case and included his feud with former teammate Shaquille O'Neal, his spat with current teammate Karl Malone and a new book by former coach Phil Jackson that portrays Bryant as an aloof prima donna.

Before the season started, O'Neal was traded to the Miami Heat and Jackson retired -- departures that many fans have blamed on Bryant.

``I was a big fan, but I just can't wear his jersey anymore,'' said Patrick Buan, 27, of Victorville, Calif., who last month put up for sale his four Bryant jerseys on eBay.

Bryant's agent, Rob Pelinka, did not return calls seeking comment. Nike Inc., Bryant's main sponsor, also declined to comment, saying only that Bryant remains under contract with the company.

Officials at AEG, which owns the Staples Center, said sales of Bryant's jersey had dipped noticeably at the store in the arena in recent weeks. They said the problem began early this summer as Bryant prepared to face criminal rape charges -- which were later dropped after his accuser said she did not want to participate in the trial.

Alan Fey, vice president of merchandising for AEG, said the manufacturer got skittish while the case was pending. ``He's such a significant player that (they) weren't willing to make all those goods and have him go to jail,'' he said.

But a spokesman for Reebok Inc., which makes Bryant's jerseys, said the company doesn't speculate on a player's marketability -- and doesn't have to. Greg Grauel, the company's senior vice president of apparel merchandising, said Reebok supplies inventory to retailers on demand.

Schwartz said Bryant's legal troubles could account for a drop in sales in the summer and possibly at the beginning of the season -- but not in December.

In June -- when the preparations for Bryant's rape trial were going full tilt -- Bryant jerseys hovered in the top five in terms of NBA jerseys sold, including time at the No. 1 spot, said Schwartz, whose company tallies numbers from a wide range of retailers.

Industry insiders say that while fans may have been willing to look the other way during the rape scandal, they seem far less willing to forgive him now for what they see as the breakup of a championship team.

``I think a lot of people were understanding of the rape trial, because there are a lot of cases of players being entrapped,'' said Bob Dorfman, executive vice president of Pickett Advertising in San Francisco. ``But it's all about winning -- that's what tickles the cash register. When he jeopardized that by single-handedly blowing apart the team, it was the final straw for a lot of people.''

The drop in sales is being felt in a wide variety of retail venues -- from small sporting good chains to the Lakers' memorabilia hub at Staples Center.

``Kobe's jersey was a core part of our business -- and now with the team going in the direction it has, we've ordered less and seen less of a demand,'' said Mike Batt, general manager of Fanzz in Salt Lake City, a sporting goods retail chain with 32 stores.

The drop in sales is bad news for Nike Inc., based in Beaverton, Ore., which sank a reported $40 million into a multiyear contract with Bryant. While Nike does not make his jersey -- Massachusetts-based Reebok, Inc. recently bought the licensing rights to all NBA player jerseys from Nike -- the decline is further evidence that they may not see a return on their investment.

While both McDonald's and Nutella have since dropped him, Nike has stood by Bryant, but has yet to use him in a single ad, even in ones touting Bryant's own shoe.

Nike spokesman Rodney Knox declined to say whether the manufacturer intends to use him in future campaigns.

``There's too much at stake for Nike to want to tarnish their brand image by using him,'' said Paul Swangard, managing director of the Warsaw Sports Marketing Center at the University of Oregon.

While the drop in sales is surprising, it's unlikely to make a dent in Bryant's personal fortune. In June, Forbes.Com ranked him as the 10th highest-paid celebrity of 2004, earning $26.1 million from June 2003 to June 2004 in salaries, bonuses, prize money, appearance fees -- as well as his Nike endorsement.

**ram** · January 7th, 2005 05:56 PM

kaya parang balewala rin yung lost sales sa jerseys. he's much too rich.

**ssaloon** · January 8th, 2005 10:28 AM

kahit retired na si jordan, malakas pa rin benta ng shoes and jerseys niya ;)

**kimpOy** · January 8th, 2005 10:29 AM

tsk tsk i cant believe this guy

Raptors criticize Carter after he acknowledges he didn't give it his all

January 7, 2005

TORONTO (AP) -- Vince Carter's former teammates were dismayed Friday after hearing him admit he didn't always try his hardest when he played for the Toronto Raptors.

In an interview broadcast Thursday on TNT, network analyst John Thompson asked Carter if he pushed himself as hard as he should have in Toronto.

``In years past, no,'' said Carter, acquired by the New Jersey Nets on Dec 17. ``I was fortunate to have the talent ... you get spoiled when you're able to do a lot of things. You see that you don't have to work at it.

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``Now, with the all the injuries, I have to work harder. I'm a little hungrier. Getting a fresh start has made me want to attack the basket.''

Many have questioned Carter's dedication, his commitment to offseason conditioning and his desire to improve, but some where were surprised to hear Carter acknowledge it.

``It's a reflection on him and his character,'' Raptors guard Rafer Alston said. ``Is he a guy that you can go to war with night in and night out? That's what a lot of people are going to be questioning.''

Alston also suggested that Carter cost the Raptors games with his lack of effort.

``It hurts,'' Alston said. ``I don't know if a player who is considered an All-Star and has so many fan votes going into All-Star week wants to have that on his rap sheet.''

Carter has played well since being traded for Alonzo Mourning, Aaron Williams, Eric Williams and two first-round draft picks. He is averaging 22.5 points in 40.3 minutes with New Jersey, compared to 15.9 points in 30.4 minutes with the Raptors.

Toronto guard Morris Peterson was shocked when he watched the interview on television.

``It caught me off guard, being a professional player that's something I always pride myself on,'' Peterson said. ``I can sleep better at night knowing I give it everything I can.''

``You could tell he wasn't playing his best,'' Peterson said.

Toronto coach Sam Mitchell didn't want to talk about Carter.

``That's between Vince and his conscience,'' Mitchell said.

**ssaloon** · January 8th, 2005 10:37 AM

tsk tsk tsk....

**ILuvDetailing** · January 8th, 2005 11:13 AM

Even tho he doesn't say it you can see it in his body language that he wasn't playing hard. Will all the athletic ability and jumping ability in the world why would he settle for jumpers when he can drive in the lane. Thats what separates MJ from his peers, is his relentless attack and his competetive juice, you know what you get from MJ every night. Is surprised that Vince Carter admitted this, its the 1st time I ever heard a player admitted he wasn't playing hard. sheesshhh.... what a waste