The Perpetual NBA Thread

**Severus|** · May 12th, 2003 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by cardsVR

what if MJ was without pippen & rodman & kukoc & harper... or pippen and horace and Armstrong and Paxson... ??? much like kobe would be without shaq & fish & fox & horry...

1:1 na lang sila... parang yun commercial ni jordan sa gatorade hehehe :mrgreen:

Iba parin kapag may kakampi kang malakas na center. Imagine Jordan having a Shaq by his side... 8O

**preytoryan** · May 13th, 2003 12:07 AM

well, if you will compare the two using stats, hindi matatapos ang diskusyon simply because hindi sila nagkasabay, as in, in the peak of their careers. kaya nga tinamad na si jordan di ba? he said wala na yung mental challenges kaya nag retire sya. ngayon siguro, pwede nyong i compare si tmac at kobe. by stats and skills, pinili ng mga analyst si tmac over kobe. mga nba analyst na yun ha...

what separates jordan from kobe, and the rest, is how he made NBA a global game. in every part of the world, sumikat ang NBA, at kilalang kilala ang pangalang jordan. it is not just stats and numbers that made him famous. it is his charisma, attitude, dedication. i think we all know that someday, mabe break ni kobe lahat ng records ni jordan, except 1... and that is, yung 40pts at the age of 40... well, pwede pa rin ma break ni kobe kung aalagaan nya sarili nya...

hangat magkasama si kobe at shaq, there will always be questions about his greatness and ability to win rings.... simply put, shaq is still the most dominating player in the NBA.

**jaspi11** · May 13th, 2003 12:08 AM

basta pareho ko silang enjoy panoorin, mag-kaiba kasi style ng laro nila lalo na pag-sumasalaksak, wow galing:lol:

**odell** · May 13th, 2003 12:12 AM

kay jordan ako.. :mrgreen: no questions ask..

**DY3JRM** · May 13th, 2003 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by jaspi11

mag-kaiba kasi style ng laro nila lalo na pag-sumasalaksak

Hindi ba gumagaya lang si Kobe kay MJ ?

**odell** · May 13th, 2003 12:22 AM

pinag aralan ata ni kobe lahat ni muvs ni MJ ehhh

**preytoryan** · May 13th, 2003 12:40 AM

talaga? kapikat pala!

**ssaloon** · May 13th, 2003 01:01 AM

Career Highlights/Milestones of MJ (from NBA.com)

- Five-time NBA Most Valuable Player (1987-88, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98 )
- Ten-time All-NBA First Team selection (1986-87 to 1992-93, 1995-96 to 1997-98 )
- Selected in 1996 as one of the "50 Greatest Players in NBA History"
- A member of six Chicago Bulls NBA championship teams (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97 and 1997-98 )
- Six-time NBA Finals Most Valuable Player
- The 1987-88 NBA Defensive Player of the Year and record nine-time NBA All Defensive First Team selection (1987-88 to 1992-93, 1995-96 to 1997-98 )
- Entering 2002-03, ranked first in NBA history in scoring average (31.0 ppg), second in steals (2,391), fourth in points (30,652) and in field-goals made (11,513), fifth in free-throws made (7,061), sixth in field-goals attempted (23,010) and eighth in free-throws attempted (8,448)
- Closed the 1997-98 season as the Bulls' all-time franchise leader in points, rebounds (5,836), assists (5,012), steals, games (930), field-goals made and attempted and free-throws made and attempted (8,115)
- Holds the NBA record for most seasons leading the league in scoring (10)
- Shares the NBA record with Wilt Chamberlain for most consecutive seasons leading the league in scoring (seven, 1986-87 to 1992-93)
- Holds the NBA record for most consecutive games scoring in double-digits (842)
- Holds the NBA record for most seasons leading the league in field-goals made (10) and attempted (10)
- Led the NBA in steals in 1987-88 (3.16 spg), 1989-90 (2.77 spg) and 1992-93 (2.83 spg)
- Holds the NBA single-game records for most free-throws made in one half (20 against the Miami Heat on 12/30/92) and most most free-throws attempted in one half (23 in the same game)
- Shares the NBA single-game records for most free-throws made in one quarter (14 against the Utah Jazz on 11/15/89 and against the Miami Heat on 12/30/92) and most free-throws attempted in one quarter (23 against the Miami Heat on 12/30/92)
- Holds the NBA Finals record for highest single-series scoring average (41.0 ppg in 1993)
- Entering the 2002-03 season, ranks as the all-time NBA Finals leader in three-pointers made (42), second in three-point attempts (114), third in points (1,176), fourth in steals (62), fifth in field-goals made (438), sixth in assists (209) and free-throws made (258), seventh in field-goals attempted (911) and eighth in free-throws attempted (320)
- Holds the NBA Playoffs record for highest career scoring average (33.4 ppg)
- Established an NBA Playoffs record with 63 points against the Boston Celtics on 5/20/86
- Entering the 2002-03 season ranks as the all-time NBA Playoffs leader in field-goals attempted (4,497), free-throws made (1,463) and attempted (1,766), second in steals (376) and field-goals made (2,188), fifth in assists (1,022), seventh in three-point attempts (446) and ninth in three-pointers made (148)
- Recorded two playoff career triple-doubles, both against the New York Knicks (5/9/89 and 6/2/93)
- Participated in 13 NBA All-Star Games (1985, 1987-1993, 1996-98, 2002-03), starting 13 times, and missed another due to injury
- Named the MVP of the 1988, 1996 and 1998 NBA All-Star Games
- All-time NBA All-Star Game leader in steals (35) and ranks second in field-goal attempts (206), third in points (242), fourth in scoring average (20.2 ppg), and eighth in assists (52)
- Notched the first triple-double in All-Star Game history, with 14 points, 11 rebounds and 11 assists, in the 1997 NBA All-Star Game in Cleveland
- Won the Slam Dunk Contest in 1987 and 1988, also participating in 1985
- Notched his 28th career triple-double, with 30 points, 11 rebounds and 10 assists, against the Toronto Raptors on 4/14/97
- Returned from retirement against the Indiana Pacers on 3/19/95 and posted 19 points, six rebounds, six assists and three steals in 43 minutes

**ssaloon** · May 13th, 2003 01:06 AM

here's a statistical comparison between the two players....

MJ

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/michael_jordan/index.html?nav=page

Kobe

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kobe_bryant/index.html?nav=page

you be the judge... to each his own ika nga.

pero may tanong ako, how come kobe wears jordan sneakers? :wink:

**ASTIG** · May 13th, 2003 01:22 AM

kobe better than MJ? no way! not even close.

kobe has not proved anything yet. he needs to have his own team. win championships without shaq, win 5 mvps then maybe kobe will be half of what jordan is.