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    #841
    Mahirap makita for me at normal speed or if hindi talaga pinanood ng maraming beses. It can be travelling but not easy to call unlike Harden's other obvious travelling moves.

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    #842
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Minsan talaga travelling si Harden pero yung stepback hindi travel yan. Si lamont strothers the helicopter na import ng San Miguel dati na tumalo kay Tony Harris eh may move rin na ganyan.

    Pagka-gather kasi 2 steps na din naman ang ginawa niya. Nasanay lang tayo talaga na in-motion kasi dati yung allowed yun samantalang siya stepback or backward moving.

    Yung ginawa ni Steph talagang yun travel. Nana naman siya na magreklamo pa dun. Although he has a point na bantayan ng ng refs yung stepback ni Harden at mukhang madami dun travel minsan kasi double stepback.

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    Unless I see a video, I dont believe Strothers has that similar move. Maybe just a one-step back move which is normal even back then. At hindi naman lulusot sa PBA refs kung may ganun. Ang PBA ref tatawag ng travel kahit wala hahaha

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    #843
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Minsan talaga travelling si Harden pero yung stepback hindi travel yan. Si lamont strothers the helicopter na import ng San Miguel dati na tumalo kay Tony Harris eh may move rin na ganyan.

    Pagka-gather kasi 2 steps na din naman ang ginawa niya. Nasanay lang tayo talaga na in-motion kasi dati yung allowed yun samantalang siya stepback or backward moving.

    Yung ginawa ni Steph talagang yun travel. Nana naman siya na magreklamo pa dun. Although he has a point na bantayan ng ng refs yung stepback ni Harden at mukhang madami dun travel minsan kasi double stepback.

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    #844
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    3 steps after the dribble bro.
    Napaliwanag na yan. Yung gather ng bola jondi considered as 1 step. Kaya yung stepback 2 step lang.

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    #845
    Bakit kasi hinde ba na lang nila gawin katulad ng dati na allowed lang yun 2 steps pag nasa momentum yun players pa abate like sa fastbreak.

    So ngayon kung ganyan na ang rule pwede ba yun gatherd ka tapos pa side na dalawang steps hinde travelling yun?


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    #846
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Bakit kasi hinde ba na lang nila gawin katulad ng dati na allowed lang yun 2 steps pag nasa momentum yun players pa abate like sa fastbreak.

    So ngayon kung ganyan na ang rule pwede ba yun gatherd ka tapos pa side na dalawang steps hinde travelling yun?


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    Exactly my point din. Yung classic step-back ay one step backward lang. Ngayon inapply nila yung 2 steps after gathering the ball kahit sa step back.

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    #847
    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    Exactly my point din. Yung classic step-back ay one step backward lang. Ngayon inapply nila yung 2 steps after gathering the ball kahit sa step back.
    Pwede ba pag pa side na 2 steps din pag gathered?


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    #848
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Napaliwanag na yan. Yung gather ng bola jondi considered as 1 step. Kaya yung stepback 2 step lang.

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    "2 steps lang" hehehe --> that's a lot for a step back.

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    #849
    Daming travelling talaga sa NBA na hindi tinatawagan... mostly sa nakita ko yung step first bago dribble... ni let go lang ng ref mga ganun...

    Sabi nga nila pag swabe moves no call pero pag pangit ting Nan for sure may tawag yan... hahaha


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    #850
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Napaliwanag na yan. Yung gather ng bola jondi considered as 1 step. Kaya yung stepback 2 step lang.

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    Compared to other all time greats' time that's practically a rule change bro. Along with other rule changes favoring offensive players, its no wonder offensive records are being broken left and right.

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