Mountain Biking...freespirited, and not-so-complicated fun

**MAXBUWAYA** · August 5th, 2003 08:38 PM

hey peeps i just visted cartimar today

eto quote sa akin

Frame Mongoose w/ rear suspension P5000 (i dunno kung orig)
Fork Ballistic (adjustable spring) P1800
Handle post YST alloy P350
Handle bar Amoeba P1100
Gruposet Deore (silver) P14,000w/discbrk-P8500Vbrake)
Pedal MKS ally japan daw P600
Rim super Aero Deemax swift arrow P800
spokes wingstar double butted japan P500
Tires Tioga japan, kevlar folding P1,300
Tube long valve Tw P150
Saddle vetta gel italy P700
Seat clamp P200

All in all
P25, 700 (with disc brake)
P20,200 (cantilevers)

Pa assemble ito sa Ritchey cartimar

good buy ba?

Although im havin second thoughts duon sa frame.
any suggestion?

Malabo nga ako sa Deore LX. dapat mga P35k pag LX

**MAXBUWAYA** · August 5th, 2003 08:40 PM

saan nga pala yung bike shpo sa rockwell?

**BlackMagic** · August 5th, 2003 09:05 PM

Max,
Some questions:
Do you really need the rear suspension? Do you plan to go cross country or downhill most of the time? Coz the rear shock will eat your power up really bad unless the shock has a lock out. Pero the Mongoose is a good brand naman basta orig hehe.

Recommendations:
Pre dont buy Ballistic forks. For a few hundred pesos more, you could go for is RST or SUntour. Pero mas ok pag Marzocchi, Manitou or Rockshox. Cant go wrong with either 3.
For tires, search for Nokian, Continental or Michelin.
For rims, I always trust Mavic.
The other parts are good naman.
Just remember, DONT SCRIMP ON HELMETS. Pare ulo natin ang pinaguusapan dito eh. Buy branded helmets ie Giro, Bell, Specialized, Louis Garneau.

**MAXBUWAYA** · August 5th, 2003 10:09 PM

May panaracer tires pa ba? importante kevlar at magaang ito dati gamit ko smoke and darts

May helmet ako dito specialize, pero mukhang out moded na yung shape hehehe wala ngang visor eh. ehehehe

gusto ko nga sana downhill kaya lang baka mawalan ako ng time kung pupunta pa ko ng malayo palagi. I was thinking of mixture na cross country and maybe do some trials(but not extreme trials)
may mga nag trtrials na ba dito?(kaya ko kaya? hehehe)
curious lang din kasi ako sa full suspension bike. noong araw very rare pa kasi ito. pero baka wag na nga lang

I saw the ballistic nga. lo-end talaga itsura pa lang. i suggested to go for Rock shoxTT (yung magnesium sana classic! pero 9k!!?

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yung manitou mukhang ok din. isa sa mga familar brands na naalala ko.

Eto nga pala i took some pics

Eto yung Deore na silver. ganito ba inyo?
uso pa ba yng hyperglide? yung oblong tapos may bungi?
D kasi oblong ito.

http://www.pbase.com/image/20018948
http://www.pbase.com/image/20019233
http://www.pbase.com/image/20019080

Mga buong bike ito---

Eto naman yung isa na nagustuhan ko 21k kaya lang wala pa sa level ng japan made Shimano. Shimano Alivio lang sya(malaysia)
*ganito yung frame na quoted sa akin.

http://www.pbase.com/image/20018776
http://www.pbase.com/image/20018929
http://www.pbase.com/image/20018852
http://www.pbase.com/image/20018891

Another one.
Mix yung parts. I dunno if those shimano are top of the line

http://www.pbase.com/image/20018760
http://www.pbase.com/image/20018454

ANother(Swak sa budget)

http://www.pbase.com/image/20018466
http://www.pbase.com/image/20018608
http://www.pbase.com/image/20018757

**gulliver** · August 6th, 2003 01:19 AM

max,

the deore grpset looks ok to me, but the pictures are kinda small and my eyes are not so great

still, mukhang katulad sa aking silver set rin. try to get the hand levers with separate elements for the gear changer and the brake. that way, according to some friends, if the bike falls and you break a lever, you don't have to change the whole assembly. i think that makes sense.

blackmagic had a good question i.e. why one with a rear shock?

on the other hand, full suspensions are supposed to be more comfortable on the trail, and invaluable on the downhill stretches...so unless you get the right mix (rear and front suspension elements) baka mapagod ka lang pag dating sa uphill and cross country.

pero i believe what others say that for a first MTB, a hard-tail is hard to beat. mas mabilis, mas magaan at mas madaling alagain. plus you can concentrate more money on getting a quality front shock fork.

then for those rough trailing trips, save up for a quality full-suspension (one part at a time) hehehe

re your hard-tail if you so decide, consider sticking with v-brakes, or v-brake in the rear, disc up front. mabigat din ang full disc brake setup. for the chain, specify the Shimano chain used in the XTR set up (about 800)...the chain on the Deore sucks. my first Deore chain broke after using the bike for about 200km. it sucks. the xtr chain definitely feels more sturdy.

just my thoughts...happy shopping!

**Ibaloi** · August 6th, 2003 06:24 AM

Thanks! maka punta nga diyan sa Cartimar. I've heard of that place before. I'll ask my friend to take me there one of these days. Tiis muna ako dito.

**MAXBUWAYA** · August 7th, 2003 09:51 PM

how about wardrobe? do you have overall protection???

besides helmet?

**kimpOy** · August 8th, 2003 09:16 AM

i saw group of bikers sa TV (MUB) naka loose motorcross jersey sila plus loose shorts,
hindi na uso ang cycling shorts and body hugging race jerseys?
sayang m eron pa naman akong yellow jersey he..he

**BlackMagic** · August 8th, 2003 11:04 AM

Kim,
Their attire is mainly for DH and XC biking. Di pa rin malalaos ang jersey with cycling shorts. Dayo na kasi Boss Kim. Dont forget to compose a primer on Sacobia Hills para ganahan kaming lahat hehe.

Max,
Jersey or Tshirt, cycling shorts or surf shorts, helmet, gloves, shades and cycling shoes lang for me. Set up ka na para sumama ka na sa amin. Dumadami na grupo natin sa biking. As of now there are 10 regulars na sa bike group. Ride on.

**gulliver** · August 8th, 2003 11:13 AM

Originally posted by kimpOy
i saw group of bikers sa TV (MUB) naka loose motorcross jersey sila plus loose shorts,
hindi na uso ang cycling shorts and body hugging race jerseys?
sayang m eron pa naman akong yellow jersey he..he

hehehe, according to mbaction magazine, circa 1980's pa daw yung look na yan

at least for MTBkers. road-racers still use the body-hugging gear.

i like using long loose comfortable shorts enough to cover the thighs kasi i bike at night a lot. keeps my thighs warm. for rides over 15k, spandex underneath the shorts is a must for me para hindi ma irritate mga thighs ko

for the jersey naman, kung maganda katawan mo like BlackMagic and Mikko (my friend), puede na rin siguro body-fit pero sa mga mataba katulad ko, loose!

ang importante siguro dyan, yung sweat-drying effects ng jersey or shirt. nike claims their not-so new line of sport shirts draw the sweat away from the body and flick them off your skin, through your shirt and into the air (sphere etc). wow. price range (800 up). mga magandang jersey (1,800 up).

protection gear? helmet critical when speeding, trailing or driving through po traffic. elbow pads and knee pads, pag nag serious trailing (which i still have to do) otherwise i don't use them dahil medyo hassle (but probably should for safety reasons).

gloves are good and essential (i think) esp kung ayaw mo magkaroon ng kalyo (i.e. pang-romansa kamay mo hehehe). they also add a layer for protection if you take a spill and use your hands to protect the rest of your body.

sorry for long post but this was a question i wanted to ask before getting a bike, and had to learn through observation, and some thinking