Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez 3 24/7 part 1( The official 24/7)

**shadow** · November 14th, 2011 10:54 AM

zero crime rate nanaman daw sabi ng PNP.....

....sa vegas kasi nangyari yun biggest robbery...

**CoDer** · November 14th, 2011 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by oliver1013

Fresh pa sa isip ko yung laban kahapon then pinanood ko to, honestly, as a Pacman fan, I don't want a FMJ MP fight

Not a fair comparison bro. JMM is a counter puncher, but was an aggressor against Floyd. Plus JMM conditioning sucked during that fight.

Floyd don't counter punch like JMM.

**Monseratto** · November 14th, 2011 11:18 AM

Pacquiao-Marquez IV in May 2012 | Inquirer Sports

Pacquiao did eke out a majority decision over fierce rival Juan Manuel Marquez at the MGM Grand Garden Arena, but somehow, Arum seems stuck in the middle of having won and lost.

“I’m bound and determined to find a definitive winner once and for all [between Pacquiao and Marquez],” Arum said after the fight. “If both fighters agree, they’ll do a rematch in May 2012.”

Manny Pacquiao again wins suspect decision vs. Juan Manuel Marquez - BostonHerald.com

Manny Pacquiao again wins suspect decision vs. Juan Manuel Marquez
Pac-Man escapes
By Ron Borges
Sunday, November 13, 2011 - Updated 5 hours ago
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E-mail Print (6) Comments Text size Share LAS VEGAS — The final words from Juan Manuel Marquez the night before he faced Manny Pacquiao for a third time were: “I just hope the judges give me a fair shake.’’

They didn’t.

A stunned and angry sold-out crowd at the MGM Grand Garden Arena hollered angrily after it was announced that Pacquiao had been handed an improbable majority decision, beating Marquez for the second time under a cloud of suspicion.

The crowd booed lustily as it was announced that Glenn Trowbridge had scored the bout 116-112 for Pacquiao and Dave Moretti had it 115-113 for the WBO welterweight champion. The third judge, Robert Hoyle, had it a draw, 114-114. The Herald card scored the bout 117-112 for Marquez.

Marquez refused to speak to HBO’s broadcasters after the fight, storming out of the ring as the fans cheered. When Pacquiao tried to answer HBO’s questions, the crowd booed so lustily not a word of his could be heard. When they tried a second time, the boos cascaded down even louder, no one in the crowd interested in hearing from him as even Pacquiao hung his head in sadness.

The more HBO’s Max Kellerman persisted in trying to speak with him the louder the boos grew until the crowd began to chant, “Marquez! Marquez! Marquez!’’

If anyone wonders why boxing’s reputation is in such sad disrepair they need only watch the replay next week.

Marquez (52-6-1, 39 KOs) entered the ring first to thunderous cheers and a constant refrain of “Marquez! Marquez! Marquez!’’ Marquez lifted one arm in acknowledgement, but seemed utterly focused on the task at hand.

Pacquiao, in contrast, smiled widely as he walked through a sea of swimming lights as Survivor blasted out “Eye of the Tiger.’’ He finally emerged at just before midnight East Coast time, bouncing up and down as he walked toward the ring. Waiting for him swathed in a simple white towel and oddly surrounded by a mariachi band was Marquez, bouncing up and down with barely controlled fury.

Both opened the fight cautiously, peering in for openings but finding few and taking few risks to pry one open. Marquez landed several hard shots to the body, catching Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38 KOs) as he tried to get inside but little damage was done in the first few rounds, although Marquez managed to get the better of it by outworking Pacquiao by what seemed to be a 2-to-1 ratio.

Pacquiao’s normally frenetic pace was not in evidence in the first third of the fight. He was not throwing freely and seemed to have trouble finding his distance. When he did get inside, Marquez peppered him several times with the right hand and then stepped away from Pacquiao’s fearsome left hook and out of harm’s way, with Pacquiao unable to figure out how to counter that approach.

As the fight wound into the middle rounds a familiar pattern began to emerge. Marquez was following the blueprint of Erik Morales, the last man to defeat Pacquiao six years ago. He was using his jab and straight right hand to stop Pacquiao’s charges and then either stepping to his left away from the champion or flurrying inside to the body and then tying him up or stepping away.

Pacquiao seemed ponderous and reluctant, odd words to describe one of boxing’s action fighters. His hands seemed glued to his head, covering up even before Marquez moved toward him. Even at that Marquez continually landed his straight right hand, stopping Pacquiao’s charges time and again.

Pacquiao’s best round was the 10th when he attacked Marquez furiously right after the bell sounded and twice landed blistering combinations that made Marquez bend low to try to avoid more punishment. But Marquez battled back in the latter half of the round.

The final round was more of the same as the crowd roared and then fell silent awaiting a decision that twice before had gone against Marquez even though he and many at ringside felt he had won.

**NightRock** · November 14th, 2011 11:25 AM

Noon Sigaw ni PacMan "kakampi ko ang dios"

Ngayon Sigaw ni PacMan " kakampi ko ang Judge"

**Altis6453** · November 14th, 2011 11:43 AM

With due respect to Pacquiao fans, I think Freddie Roach was being diplomatic when he said that JMM was a "tough matchup" and the "close fight could have gone either way". He all but guaranteed Pacman would KO JMM in interviews leading up to the fight but what he got instead were solid, accurate punches landing on Pacman. He won on points --- based in large part on how the judges scored the fight and how the COMPBOX recorded the number of punches thrown and landed. But, Pacman's rep just took a severe beating and lost a lot of shine in the process.

This is one rematch that should be made fairly quickly if Pacman's handlers want to leave "no doubt" as to who the superior fighter really is.

One thing I don't get is why the hell Pacman changed styles or tactics with Marquez? He had Marquez' number in the 2 previous fights by being uber aggressive from the opening bell. JMM is the consumate counterpunch artist in these fights but he was met by a flurry of punches which he never saw coming. That's how Pacman gave Marquez the taste of the canvass. IMHO, he should have let JMM adjust to him.

**shadow** · November 14th, 2011 11:46 AM

^meron na press released si Michael Konz, "adviser" ni Pacman na spy pala ng top Rank...he will advise against a rematch with JMM daw.

**Altis6453** · November 14th, 2011 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by shadow

^meron na press released si Michael Konz, "adviser" ni Pacman na spy pala ng top Rank...he will advise against a rematch with JMM daw.

Well, after Pacman narrowly being handed his a$$ to him by JMM, I guess he should advise against a rematch. Though, that would make Pacman look like a pu$$y in the eyes of a lot of boxing fans. Not a good thing.

**jansky** · November 14th, 2011 12:24 PM

they say he was robbed what da...

- 1st battle DRAW (and insist he was robbed) .. MP is underdog here
-2nd battle Split Decision( was robbed again).. MP is still underdog
-3rd battle Majority Decision(robbed again)..

to convince that he won that fight he should first

- JMM should be aggressor, since he is the challenger.. he must convince judges
- 114-114, 115-113, AND 116-112. not one of the judges saw him winning

im not an wannabe boxing expert but I THINK

if one round is a close round and difficult to score.. judges may favor or incline point score to champion

lastly..
JMM should not ask for another fight if he is not ready to hear or accept what judges score

but kudos to JMM for bringing the fight...

**tsupermario** · November 14th, 2011 12:50 PM

eto may poll pa..
[SIZE=4]Among 20 scribes, Marquez favored a dozen to one over Pacquiao[/SIZE]

In a comprehensive list of 20 boxing media members compiled from ringside by RingTV.com's Lem Satterfield and Golden Boy Promotions publicist Bill Caplan, only one of chose Manny Pacquiao as the victor against Juan Manuel Marquez in Saturday night's HBO televised clash for Pacquiao's WBO welterweight belt.

Pacquiao was chosen a majority decision winner, getting the nod from official ringside judges, Glenn Trowbridge and Dave Moretti by scores of 116-112, and, 115-113, respectively, while Robert Hoyle called it even at 114-114.

It was the third meeting for Pacquiao against Marquez, who battled through a disputed draw and a split-decision win for Pacquiao in 2004 and 2008.

The breakdown was 12 for Marquez, seven in favor of a draw and one for Pacquiao.

Below is the complete list and the scores.

Lem Satterfield, Ringtv.com: 117-111, Juan Manuel Marquez
Ron Borges, Boston Herald: 117-112, Marquez
Chris Mannix, Sports Illustrated: 116-112, Marquez
Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112, Marquez
Ryan Maquinana, BoxingScene.com/CSNBAREA.com: 116-113, Marquez
Mike Coppinger, RingTV.com: 115-113, Marquez
Bill Dwyre, Los Angeles Times: 115-113, Marquez
Norm Frauenheim, Boxing News - 24/7 - MMA News - UFC 115-113, Marquez
Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 115-113, Marquez
Bob Velin, USA Today: 115-113, Marquez
George Willis, New York Post: 115-113, Marquez
Jerry Izenberg, Philadelphia Inquirer: 115-114, Marquez
Sean Sullivan, Boxing Digest: 115-114, Manny Pacquiao
Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 114-114
Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 114-114
Bryan Graham, Sports Illustrated: 114-114
Kevin Iole, Yahoo!Sports: 114-114
Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN.com/Reuters: 114-114
Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-114
Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com: 114-114

**Altis6453** · November 14th, 2011 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by jansky

they say he was robbed what da...

- 1st battle DRAW (and insist he was robbed) .. MP is underdog here
-2nd battle Split Decision( was robbed again).. MP is still underdog
-3rd battle Majority Decision(robbed again)..

to convince that he won that fight he should first

- JMM should be aggressor, since he is the challenger.. he must convince judges
- 114-114, 115-113, AND 116-112. not one of the judges saw him winning

im not an wannabe boxing expert but I THINK

if one round is a close round and difficult to score.. judges may favor or incline point score to champion

lastly..
JMM should not ask for another fight if he is not ready to hear or accept what judges score

but kudos to JMM for bringing the fight...

One question in my mind (and maybe other people) is PACMAN's confidence shot after this match? After a very impressive winning streak, taking out fighter after fighter (none of whom are chopped liver, mind you), he's gotta be wondering what if the judges' scorecards went the other way?