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    Quote Originally Posted by Lin Dan View Post
    Same here though I prefer not to take meds. Just moringa, ampalaya and banaba supplements. Keeps my blood sugar from breaching 110. So far effective sa body system ko. Diabetes Talk


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    thirty years ago, the normal upper limit was 120.
    a few years after, they lowered it to 110.
    now, the current upper limit of normal is 100...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    Hoping to share my experience with diabetes.

    i have been a pre-diabetic (type II) for almost 2 decades. i was only prescribed lifestyle change which i did and my experience for almost 20 years living with this disease is that Exercise preferably Cardio type is one that has kept my levels in line more than food intake. i exercise 3-4x a week after work. i am not as restrictive on my diet like other pre diabetics that i know of. i still drink fruit juices/regular sodas/milk tea/candies/bubble gums/desserts like cake, etc. thou my intake on these types of food has reduced already or i switch to a non sugary alternative(diet soda/nutrisweet in coffee)
    i go to buffets, binge eating at partys, drinking beer or whiskey occasionally. But when i do all that i make sure i supplement my exercise with a diabetic drug (metformin) and try to exercise more.
    a balance of food intake and exercise. a type of abnormal healthy lifestyle. hahaha
    Exercise is really the key for type II diabetic in my experience.

    This is before covid lockdown thou.
    Since lockdown, the reduced exercise had increased my drug intake but has mainly kept my sugar levels in the upper range of the fbs test range.
    I'm confused, you are prediabetic but you are taking meds now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I'm confused, you are prediabetic but you are taking meds now?

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    what is ale's objective in taking metformin? i do not know.
    but some folks take metformin, as an aid to weight control.
    would i bless the practice?
    fortunately... hindi ko linya yan. i don't have to answer.
    heh heh.

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    I'm confused, you are prediabetic but you are taking meds now?
    metformin can prevent a pre-diabetic from becoming diabetic

    pero of course need parin diet and exercise

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    thirty years ago, the normal upper limit was 120.
    a few years after, they lowered it to 110.
    now, the current upper limit of normal is 100...
    Why did they lower down the threshold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Why did they lower down the threshold?

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    in 2003, the writers wrote that normal level is less than 110.
    others wrote that 102 is already pre-diabetes.

    exactly how these writers came up with those numbers, i haven't been able to find out yet.
    'hirap kasi sa ibang online sources, they require a little plastic card's numbers... which i do not want to go into agreement with them over.
    heh heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    metformin can prevent a pre-diabetic from becoming diabetic

    pero of course need parin diet and exercise
    the ff. is a simplistic explanation, as i know there are other important factors to consider, but...

    one theory about diabetes, is that we are all born with our personal specific amount of lifetime insulin production.
    the less we use it early in life, the more it will be available later on in life.
    maneuvers and medications that diminish insulin use now, translates to more available insulin later on.

    some folks use diabetes medication, not for diabetes, but for weight and figure control.

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    Had my first serious (aka hilong talilong) high blood episode during the ECQ despite my regular cardio (treadmill and bike trainer).
    Home glucose meter also showed 120s pre-diabetic level (fasting).

    So wifey and I overcame our phobia of a hospital and went for a blood chem.

    The surprise........low FBS (78 mg/dL) BUT HBA1C is 5.9% confirming my pre-diabetic status.

    Might go back to dirty keto but my normally high choleterol is making me think twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    the ff. is a simplistic explanation, as i know there are other important factors to consider, but...

    one theory about diabetes, is that we are all born with our personal specific amount of lifetime insulin production.
    the less we use it early in life, the more it will be available later on in life.
    maneuvers and medications that diminish insulin use now, translates to more available insulin later on.

    some folks use diabetes medication, not for diabetes, but for weight and figure control.


    Ok Doc i'm not gonna debate with a doctor

    sa pagkaalam ko lang metformin increases insulin sensitivity so kung insulin resistant ka (pre-diabetic) that medicine helps

    ung konte ang insulin production may ibang gamot para diyan diba?

    mga insulin secretagogue (sulfonylureas and glinides)

    but that's for full-blown diabetes

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    #330
    Metformin has an FDA recall...
    FDA Recommends Recall of Extended-Release Metformin Due to Cancer-Causing Ingredient | diaTribe

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