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    #20111
    Sinovac or pfizer?

    if i were to be vaccinated now and was given the option to choose between sinovac and pfizer, i’d choose sinovac.

    Here’s why:

    - sinovac has 100% efficacy rate for severe cases which means that i’m practically immune from getting severe covid-19 symptoms. It is also 78% effective against mild to moderate symptoms.

    - sinovac had more than 13,000 participants in its clinical trials if i’m not mistaken, pfizer had 3,400.

    - the pfizer vaccine has 95% effectiveness rate at protecting an infected person from developing mild to moderate covid-19 symptoms only. As for severe symptoms, they simply mentioned that the vaccine is “amply effective” to prevent severe illness.

    - however, during pfizer’s phase iii clinical trials, only 1 out of 10 severe cases was vaccinated. One.

    - even pfizer’s 95% effectiveness rate is being disputed because only 170 participants in their phase iii clinical trials—out of 3,410–were pcr-confirmed covid-19 cases. This means that there’s a high chance that the remaining 3,240 are not even covid-19 cases. This will reduce pfizer’s efficacy rate to just 19%.

    - sinovac clinical trials in brazil were all medical workers with a very high infection risk.

    - furthermore, pfizer is yet to provide more raw data for peer review.

    - also, sinovac has no reported critical side effects so far. The same thing cannot be said about pfizer.

    Sources:

    Australian academy of science. “academy statement on the pandemic, vaccines and misinformation.” academy statement on the pandemic, vaccines and misinformation | australian academy of science

    pfizer. “pfizer and biontech conclude phase 3 study of covid-19 vaccine canddiate, meeting all primary efficacy endpoints.” pfizer and biontech conclude phase 3 study of covid-19 vaccine candidate, meeting all primary efficacy endpoints | pfizer

    the bmj. “peter doshi: Pfizer and moderna’s “95% effective” vaccines—we need more details and the raw data.” peter doshi: Pfizer and moderna’s “95% effective” vaccines—we need more details and the raw data - the bmj

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    #20112

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    #20113
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Eat Bulagaaa!!!

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    #20114
    International COVID-19 vaccine poll shows higher mistrust of Russia, China shots | ABS-CBN News

    Whaaaat! There is mistrust of a vaccine coming from the source of the CHINA WUHAN VIRUS that has no reported side effects

    Buti pa ang goberyno na ito at very trusting

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    #20115
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Sinovac or pfizer?
    kung saan may KICKVAC

    Some 23 people in Norway were reported dead shortly after receiving their Pfizer/BioNTech jab, with the WHO making clear its intent to follow the investigation of these deaths closely.

    The results of autopsies conducted on 13 of the deceased suggest that "common side effects may have contributed to severe reactions in frail, elderly people," Bloomberg claims, citing the Norwegian Medicines Agency.

    "For those with the most severe frailty, even relatively mild vaccine side effects can have serious consequences," the Norwegian Institute of Public Health said. "For those who have a very short remaining life span anyway, the benefit of the vaccine may be marginal or irrelevant."
    Denmark started its mass vaccination with the Pfizer vaccine on 27 December – retirement home residents and medical staff in Oslo were the first recipients.

    A medical worker receives an injection with a dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine at the Regional Military Specialty Hospital in San Nicolas de los Garza, on the outskirts of Monterrey, Mexico 29 December, 2020

    Chinese Experts Urge for Halt in Use of mRNA Vaccines Following Deaths in Norway, Report Says
    So far, all fatal cases involving the vaccination have involved people over 80 who were weak, government-owned broadcaster NRK reports.

    Meanwhile, 21 cases of severe allergic reactions were reported by authorities in the United States between 14-23 December after about 1.9 million initial doses of the vaccine developed by Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE were administered.

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    #20116
    What do the Sinovac coronavirus vaccine efficacy results mean? | South China Morning Post

    Sinovac and the Butantan Institute said CoronaVac was found to be 100 per cent effective in preventing severe cases of Covid-19 because no recipients became seriously sick. While the trial has not amassed enough cases for the figure to be statistically significant, some scientists said that was still encouraging. So far all the vaccines available – the Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and Oxford-AstraZeneca ones – are considered to be highly effective in protecting against severe cases.

    Since the full details of the data have not been released, it would be hard to assess that explanation. But scientists said according to the study design, which counts all cases with at least one symptom and a positive PCR test, 50.4 per cent was the efficacy rate of the vaccine. This suggests that CoronaVac is more effective in preventing cases that need treatment than in stopping those that do not require medication.

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    #20117
    useless usap which vaccine what brand bla bla bla

    by the time those 1st generation vaccines arrive (whatever the brand) baka di na effective against new variants

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    #20118
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    useless usap which vaccine what brand bla bla bla

    by the time those 1st generation vaccines arrive (whatever the brand) baka di na effective against new variants
    Eventually sa mga next generations ng vaccines baka once na lang kailangan


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    #20119
    BFF walang donations dito? PSG lang binigyan.

    Cambodia says China donates 1 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines | Reuters


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    #20120
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    BFF walang donations dito? PSG lang binigyan.

    Cambodia says China donates 1 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines | Reuters


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    di na kasi kailangan ligawan si DDS bro, pang booty call nalang ng china LOL

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