An Invention That (Could) Change the World

[niky]

The slums are situated in the urban and suurban areas.

Thee areas are mostly electrified. Most of the squatters have electrical appliances and lighting.

If un-electrified slums are the target market, they are a small niche market. Then you are not changing the world.

Uh. Who said anything about UN-ELECTRIFIED slums?

Nasa very first post ko:

The typical baro baro in the slum is built wall-to-wall with the next baro baro... and there's very little natural lighting to be had from open windows. A solar bulb like this is much less expensive than a natural skylight or even installing a light bulb (needs bulb, mount, switch, electrical wiring, etcetera). It can be done for just a hundred bucks (retail... cost to do is just 50 pesos). It's not useful the entire day, but it can cut down on the need for electricity. If it saves a household 100-200 pesos a month... with the only maintenance cost being to replace the water every few months... isn't it worth it?

"Cut down", ergo... gumagamit ng electricity nga yung bahay... kung walang kuryente, bakit kailangan magtipid ng kuryente? Laboooooo.

If you're urban poor, electricity can cost you from 500-1000 pesos. If you can save about 100 to 200 pesos on lights during the daytime (especially kung wala sa budget CFL o LED), that goes a long way for people making less than 5k a month.

[d_mac]

Uh. Who said anything about UN-ELECTRIFIED slums?

Nasa very first post ko:



"Cut down", ergo... gumagamit ng electricity nga yung bahay... kung walang kuryente, bakit kailangan magtipid ng kuryente? Laboooooo.

If you're urban poor, electricity can cost you from 500-1000 pesos. If you can save about 100 to 200 pesos on lights during the daytime (especially kung wala sa budget CFL o LED), that goes a long way for people making less than 5k a month.

Chief Niky, he's not getting it, pabayaan mo na lang

Ikaw lang talaga pinaka-sensible dito, the reason why pinag-uusapan din itong thread na ito it's mostly because of you ;)

Cheers!

[andywesteast]

Uh. Who said anything about UN-ELECTRIFIED slums?

Nasa very first post ko:



"Cut down", ergo... gumagamit ng electricity nga yung bahay... kung walang kuryente, bakit kailangan magtipid ng kuryente? Laboooooo.

If you're urban poor, electricity can cost you from 500-1000 pesos. If you can save about 100 to 200 pesos on lights during the daytime (especially kung wala sa budget CFL o LED), that goes a long way for people making less than 5k a month.

Most of the squatters have jumper electricity. They do not have to pay 500 to 1000 in electricity bills.

If this bote light is meant to lessen the squatters electric bills, then its not world changing.

I can see a large squatter colony from our condo building in Makati, none are using the bote light.

[niky]

Most of the squatters have jumper electricity. They do not have to pay 500 to 1000 in electricity bills.

If this bote light is meant to lessen the squatters electric bills, then its not world changing.

I can see a large squatter colony from our condo building in Makati, none are using the bote light.

Squatters "share" meters. You can see a single "legit" meter being shared and submetered ad infinitum sometimes. And in some areas, there are a dozen meters or more for just a single lot. Never been inside one, I suppose?

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Not all good ideas have to be expensive.

What's your definition of "world changing"? Should there be a dozen installations? A hundred? A thousand? A hundred thousand? Two hundred thousand?

Because they've passed that already. (over 200k installs in the Philippines alone)

Whether the electricity displaced is paid for or pilfered, that represents a few hundred million pesos worth of electricity that is not being used.

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By the way:

How many solar thermal hydrogen power stations are operational and supplying hydrogen to consumers on a sustainable basis?

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Following that logic: I don't see any prostitutes out on Taft Avenue. Ergo. Walang prosti sa Manila.

[andywesteast]

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[andywesteast]

Squatters "share" meters. You can see a single "legit" meter being shared and submetered ad infinitum sometimes. And in some areas, there are a dozen meters or more for just a single lot. Never been inside one, I suppose?

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Not all good ideas have to be expensive.

What's your definition of "world changing"? Should there be a dozen installations? A hundred? A thousand? A hundred thousand? Two hundred thousand?

Because they've passed that already. (over 200k installs in the Philippines alone)

200k bote lights in a population of 100,000,000 is a niche market.

That is NOT World changing at all.

[niky]

200k bote lights in a population of 100,000,000 is a niche market.

That is NOT World changing at all.

200k installations.

Each installation serves a family of x people.

Which is anywhere from two to a dozen.

Let's say an average of five, which would be typical (if on the small side).

That's a million poor people.

That's hardly "niche".

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And that's 200k in one country.

This project is being done around the world.

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Toyota only sold 10 million cars last year.

In a world of 7,000 million people, that's just a niche product.

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[Retz]

sa raon may nakita ako nagbebenta ng mga solar panels. which cost somewhere between 1k-4k. does it really work? sa mga sidewalk vendors lang nagtitinda.

[niky]

Work? Probably. Yung tanong... ilang watts ang makukuha mo sa ganyang klaseng panels... one?

[Snake1]

200k bote lights in a population of 100,000,000 is a niche market.

That is NOT World changing at all.

This is true.. but shouldnt we try to change the world....1 person or one hosehold at a time?

Anything that we can do to lessen our carbon footprint x the number of people doing it... would somehow make a small contribution towards that end.

Our company supported that project last year. They had shirts sold to employees to help fund it and had volunteers cut up bottles to create the lamps. Im not sure....what developed after that though...