BSA's Crackdown of Illegal Software [Renamed]

[theveed]

Im not rich by any means, but I honestly dont find the cost of software being not "justifiable". It is expensive, yes. But read this thread palang on how many are having issues with the cost of the software but can afford to buy more expensive, non-income generating items.

If you're from the IT field, don't forget why you get a heftier paycheck than other industries even if you have less work experience.

If you have a computer shop, each one of your pc that's operating will generate income for you, I find it strange that people will be willing to spend 10K on a video card and not for an OS or application that they'll use often.

I'm not being "banal" or anything, I use P* software just like most of us, but to say that the price is too high for a device that's not a "necessity" for the basic citizen doesn't make sense.

I find the fact that people thinks software don't deserve the price simply because people equate buying a software to the actual CD/DVD that they're holding. Not accounting for the cost of developing and testing the stuff inside the disc.

Parang yung issue ng pirated videos dati... Lower the cost of originals, kalokohan. Alam ba ng tao apart from the actual celebrity that's on the movie/cd there are people who gets paid in doing "lesser" duties like promoting, printing, marketing, editing, encoding, designing, writing, composing, etc?

Who'll pay their food on their table?

Yan ang problema dito in my opinion, laging galit sa "kumikita" but not thinking about the only reason why you even know how to use a computer is because companies invested their money on something to benefit users.

Naging kasalan pa nung gumawa ang piracy, c'mon.

Parang sinabi mo na kasalanan ng naholdap at di yung holdaper dahil nagtrabaho ka kasi at kumikita ka eh...

Why not protest Ferarri for selling their cars at such high prices??? Why not protest Toyota/Honda for selling their entry level cars above 100K? Why not complain to Jolibee why their hamburgers cost 30 bucks while Scott burger costs 10?

Sa Pinas lagi pagdating sa batas kailangan paabutin sa "tinatakot" bago kumilos diba? Kung umabot sa ganito, kaya din pala magcomply. Just like the BIR crackdown etc. Kung makakalusot lulusot.

I'm not bashing anyone in particular, but more on the reasoning.

Yes mahal ang software, but just like anything else, if you can't afford it, either don't buy it or save up for it. If you choose to not do the right thing and go pirated, then don't make the company the reason of why you went that route.

Kasalanan ba ng Nokia kung hanggang 6150 lang kaya kong bilin na cellphone?

"Bring down the prices for Filipinos" Kahit anong nationality pa yan, walang laban ang presyo sa libre.

Kahit naman may mga P300 na orig na dvd P60 na pirated padin naman bibilin ng mga tao eh.

As long as it's an untangible item and easily replicated, it'll never be able to compete with bootleg in smaller markets.

[BlueBimmer]

kaya nga e, at buti kng XP lang ang available. gs2 ng latest ayaw naman magbayad, gus2 kumita ng pera pero ayaw gumastos ng tamang puhunan. kahit nakailang upgrade ng PC ang isang cafe owner pwde pa rin licensed OS nya hanggang tumanda sya. 5 days na closed mga cafes dito, obvious takot lahat. pag umabot ng ilang weeks yan, hindi ba worth it kung bumili sila ng legit OS in the 1st place?

[BoyFerrari]

As for the registration, you can also do it via internet. May parang "Activate Windows" tapos if you have an internet connection, i-veverify nalang niya through there then you're done.

Wala ring sinabi sa EULA na the Windows you purchased from the Philippines cannot be validated if installed to a PC in the U.S. The product activation is based on hardware hash signature, not country of origin.

What I really find surprising about this whole anti-piracy operation was that it involves HOME USERS (when nakastate lang sa mga dyaryo ay huhulihin lang nila yung mga Business operators o mga for "corporate use").

They never mentioned in the newspapers nor even at BSA Philippines' homepage that home users will be included in the raids.

Again, this is just a publicity stunt. Ask yourself this simple question: If an NBI Agent without a search warrant comes knocking on your front door and you refuse to open the door, will they kick the door and force their way in and search your house for computers? If your computers are inside your private bedroom and your wife is sleeping naked inside, will they force their way inside the bedroom just to boot-up the computer to check for serial numbers? Will they wait all day in your sala until your wife wakes up so they can enter the room? What if you refuse to get the computers out of your bedroom? Will they punch you black and blue just to verify that your Windows is licensed?

How can agents identify in the search warrant what house to raid for illegal copies of Windows XP? Is it possible to randomly choose any house to raid without knowing whether that house actually has computers?

Kung yung mga squatters makikipag-patayan dun sa mga pulis na magdedemolish ng shanties nila.... what more kung papasukin mo ng pwersahan yung bahay ng mga private citizens.

This threat is an urban legend.

[Greaseman]

About 3 years ago our office received the same memo from the nbi when I was assigned there in the phil. natatandaan ko wala namang nag-check sa mga pc namin.
As usual ningas kogun lang yan, kaya ba nilang walasin ang buong pilipinas?.

[EL Chicane]

About 3 years ago our office received the same memo from the nbi when I was assigned there in the phil. natatandaan ko wala namang nag-check sa mga pc namin.
As usual ningas kogun lang yan, kaya ba nilang walasin ang buong pilipinas?.

Yan din ang feeling ko. Ningas kugon lang yan. Yung mga tindahan ng pirated DVD sa Makati Cinema Square ilang beses ng ni-raid ni Bong Revilla hanggang ngayon naka-bukas pa din at may tindang DVD ulit.

Marami tayong batas na ningas kugon lang. Tulad ng Non-Smoking sa enclosed public places. Dati hinuhuli pa nila yung mga nagyo-yosi sa loob ng jeepney. Ngayon ang daming nag-yo-yosi dun sa mga open-air coffee shop sa loob pa mismo ng mga malls, wala namang pakialam yung mga security guard.

Lalo pa dito sa Pilipinas, malakas ang corruption. Naniniwala ba kayong lahat ng agent ng BSA or NBI eh malilinis at never na humingi ng lagay? Kung mga Congressman nga mayayaman na, nasusuhulan pa. Ano pa kaya yung mga ordinary agent. Malinis man si Bong Revilla, hindi niya kayang ikutin ang buong Pilipinas. May mga makukulong o magmumulta ng pailan-ilan, pero magsusulputan ulit yan na parang kabute. Itaga nyo sa bato.

[BlueBimmer]

OT

re no smoking regulation, bilib ako sa Davao mayor Duterte, sobrang bihira na makakita ng naninigarilyo sa davao. kahit pumunta ka sa mga clubs n bars 90% of the time walang naninigarilyo.

[Aquaman123]

kahit nakailang upgrade ng PC ang isang cafe owner pwde pa rin licensed OS nya hanggang tumanda sya.

Alam nyo ba nakahit licensed (windows)OS ang nka install sa mga pc ng internet cafe pwede parin silang hulihin?

Heres why:
Under the current Microsoft Licensing terms (OEM, Full Packaged Product and Volume License), there is no right to allow a 3rd party other than the customer to use Microsoft software.

http://www.microsoft.com/philippines/internetcafe/

[BlueBimmer]

so even Ghosthunter's licensed PCs are illegal for rental? maglinux na lahat ng cafe para tapos ang problema. bili na rin kayo ng isang kahong medicol.

[number001]

OEM pala yung mga kasama sa mga pc noh hehehe ok ok.. how much kaya mga ito?

But if you are really close to someone who owns a PC shop, they can sell you an OEM copy without having to buy a whole new of PC. I know of a shop selling it at Php 9.3K w/o hardware vs. Php 8.7K if you buy it with a complete of hardware from other shop.

[oldblue]

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Game over, NBI tells users of illegal software

First posted 02:07am (Mla time) Sept 19, 2005
By Margaux C. Ortiz
Inquirer News Service



Editor's Note: Published on page A23 of the Sept. 19, 2005 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer


TIME'S UP.

That was the message of the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) to users of unauthorized computer software after the one-month grace period for them to buy legal programs expired last week.

"The users were given until Sept. 15 to get rid of their illegal software," NBI -Intellectual Property Division chief Jose Justo Yap said in a phone interview.

Yap added, "We will now be going after everyone engaged in computer piracy: from big companies to small business."

The Pilipinas Anti-Piracy Team, made up of the NBI, the Optical Media Board, and the Philippine National Police, gave businesses 30 days to buy authorized computer programs before they start conducting operations against those engaged in the illegal selling and distribution of software.

Yap said the crackdown would include sellers of illegally reproduced software and businesses, especially computer rental shops that use unlicensed programs.

Violators face stiff fines and jail terms of as long as nine years.