BSA's Crackdown of Illegal Software [Renamed]

**BoyFerrari** · September 19th, 2005 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by BlueBimmer

well IMO not finding alternative softwares/OS and WHINING about XP being so expensive and justifying the use of pirated OS to earn a living on cafes is what bothers me. again, 4k is not that expensive for the owner's 'peace of mind'.

Another thing, I don't think using counterfeit Windows gives a rental owner the ability na ibagsak ang presyo ng rental fee. Come to think that if the owner will use 100% open source software, his capital investment would be significantly reduced, thus allowing him to charge even cheaper rates than ever before.

So I don't think the pricing of rental fee/per hour is related to whether they use licensed or pirated software. I think it is more related to the electricity costs (aircon for example), and the hardware maintenance costs (crashed hardisk for example). Some shop owners are really pushing the limits of the guerilla-chinese pricing scheme just to attract customers even if they only earn P50 a day.

So we are barking at the wrong tree if we are trying to figure out why some rental shops can afford to offer very cheap rental fee rates. I think the competition is just vicious nowadays since we are already saturated with internet cafes they are almost as common as water purifying stations.

**pissword** · September 19th, 2005 11:39 AM

Hi... yung nakapost na 28K for windows pro and MS office.... may alam ba kayo na cheaper??

my bro just called me up naghahanap ng windows kahit anung OS, preferably XP kung magkanu daw... 8K nga ba for the pro version? kelangan kasi inetwork for database purposes kasi ito eh. nasa parang beta testing palang kaya puro pirated OS pa gamit. pero nagkakahulihan daw doon now sabi ko pull out niya muna mga pc niya sa stores. i told him about the 28K package nga un sa other thread...

ask siya meron ba daw kahit mas mura kaunti... kaya may alam ba kayo?

**BoyFerrari** · September 19th, 2005 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by chieffy

nakalagay naman sa licensed OS ng MS not to be used outside the philippines...

I haven't seen that label. But it won't stop them from bringing it out of the country and use it there - since it is in English, they can find use for it.

Imagine if Windows costs only P500 in Greece but all the functions are in Latin. Who would want it? It's even more effective for the Philippines because Tagalog is really confined here. Unlike Chinese or Arabic.

**chieffy** · September 19th, 2005 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by bm5er

Guys,

This campaign is for real, no more warning letters as in the past.
Let us know if you need help getting OEM copies for Windows XP and Office XP,
and network Windows 2003 advanced servers.
We are members of BSA too.

pissword ito sagot sa problem mo...

**mazdamazda** · September 19th, 2005 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by BoyFerrari

I haven't seen that label. But it won't stop them from bringing it out of the country and use it there - since it is in English, they can find use for it.

Imagine if Windows costs only P500 in Greece but all the functions are in Latin. Who would want it? It's even more effective for the Philippines because Tagalog is really confined here. Unlike Chinese or Arabic.

For OEM versions, there's a label for that. We have one at home. The manual is even divided into English & Filipino.

Btw, OEM versions are a bit cheaper.

FrankDrebin · September 19th, 2005 12:00 PM

Hehehe. In short, if you can't afford then don't use it all. Very elitist indeed!

My question, are you sure you don't use any Pirated products or any related to piracy? How about the MP3s in your iPods? Crack Symbians softwares in your cellphones?

Hypocrisy at its finest. :D

**1D4LV** · September 19th, 2005 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by FrankDrebin

Hehehe. In short, if you can't afford then don't use it all. Very elitist indeed!

My question, are you sure you don't use any Pirated products or any related to piracy? How about the MP3s in your iPods? Crack Symbians softwares in your cellphones?

Hypocrisy at its finest. :D

agree bro. technically, MP3 sharing is also counterfeiting, but then.... they are not members of the BSA. syempre, mas interested lang sila protektahan yung mga producto nila, so they don't really care about those cracked symbian softwares nor MP3s.

**BlueBimmer** · September 19th, 2005 12:24 PM

on the business side, our depot network uses legit windows 2000 and 98SE together, even windows98 is more than enough for us.

i personally am not 100% legit, thats why im looking for alternative Linux OS to slowly stay away from illegal OS. BUT i certainly dont make a PROFIT out of XP or any windows OS. cant say the same for the internet cafes which have 10-40 PCs PROFITING from pirated windows. elitist or not is just a point of view. the fact of the matter is who is really taking advantage of pirated Xps and what legal methods are used in taking them down.