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May 31st, 2006 01:12 PM #51Originally Posted by allen_the_great
Why yes, Schumi is indeed one of the most ruthless and dirty tactitians of his time.
What's wrong with all of this is that the stewards did not implement sanctions evenly, nor did they punish all wrong-doers. Schumi's qualifying farce may have been the most dramatic, but there were a lot of instances on track wherein other drivers deliberately held up people behind them.
I, for one, do not lament his being reprimanded... heck, it gave us an exciting race... I just wish they would have applied the rules more evenly.
And I quite agree with M2... just because a guy's got a history, doesn't mean he can't do good. Aside from that idiotic "team orders" thing, Schumi's 2004 (2003?) drive was terrific. And in 2005, despite the "Indy fiasco" (which was whose fault?), Schumi was racing hard and clean. On Suzuka, he made it difficult for Raikkonen and Alonso to pass him at first, as was his right, racing for position... but he didn't pull off any dirty tricks, double blocks or try to shunt the other drivers into the grass.
Schumi has a history, yes. He may sometimes do things (whether on team orders or not, we'll never know) that are unfair and vicious, but the other 95% of the time, he's a perfectly gentlemanly (if somewhat stuck-up) driver.
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May 31st, 2006 01:21 PM #52Originally Posted by allen_the_great
What we are discussing from the very start is about how the stewards decided to punish Schumacher based on their opinion. There was nothing divine anywhere in the discussion, until that karma came along out of the blue.
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May 31st, 2006 01:25 PM #53
I'm not a Ferrari fan. But I dont think that Shumi has done it intentionally. I think the penalty was over reacted.
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May 31st, 2006 01:27 PM #54Originally Posted by allen_the_great
Originally Posted by allen_the_great
Originally Posted by allen_the_great
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May 31st, 2006 01:30 PM #55Originally Posted by BoyFerrari
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May 31st, 2006 01:36 PM #56Originally Posted by BoyFerrari
Originally Posted by BoyFerrari
Originally Posted by BoyFerrari
PEACE
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June 1st, 2006 05:42 PM #58
[QUOTE=allen_the_great
it may not have been cheating that was AGAINST THE RULE kasi wala pa nga naman rule prohibiting team orders. but it was definitely CHEATING THE FANS OF A FAIR RESULT. fans go watch f1 to see who is the best driver of that race. to see barrichello as the best driver of that race and see him give it up to schumacher because of team orders suck. that is cheating the fans that were watching. i watched that on tv. i felt cheated. i felt sorry for barrichello. the fans even booed schumacher.]
I also saw that race and I never felt cheated....what is clear there is that it was team prerogative. As much as it was not pleasant to see a teammate slowing down, Schumi earned that spot by also dominating the race albeit from behind his teammate's spot. If there was no trail work, Barrichello might have lost the spot to another pursuing driver/team. So if I was the team manager/owner and one of my drivers has the DOTY in the bag, I could also do the same. Wouldn't you?
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June 1st, 2006 07:10 PM #59Originally Posted by Eismann
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June 2nd, 2006 12:54 PM #60
Let's categorize what is meant by TEAM ORDERS. You CANNOT keep insisting and claiming that Ferrari has team orders to let Schumacher win the races. There is no evidence to prove such claims, therefore, using the argument of "team orders" is just a speculation and people love to use such arguments because they know it's undisputable since there's no evidence to show. In layman's terms, it's chismis - hard to prove, hard to deny either.
We were not born yesterday not to acknowledge that star drivers have a No.1 preference in an F1 team. If there is such a thing as "team orders", it's an unspoken word. When a player transfers to the Miami Heat, he should know that it is an unspoken word that Shaquille O'Neal is the No.1. When you go to Ferrari, it's a no-brainer that Schumacher IS the MAN.
Team orders are illegal, but no team has been penalized yet for giving team orders. So if you keep bringing up such invisible spectre as "team orders" while watching F1, then don't watch F1 anymore. F1 is as fake as Barry Bonds hitting a homerun under the cloud of steroid doping that could not be proven until now.
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