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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by BoyFerrari View Post
    Haha, Alonso winning the Suzuka GP out of pure luck, then out came the Blue-boys who immediately pounced the thread complete with salt and pepper on hand.

    If Schumacher didn't blew his engine (technically, you can't claim that he abused his engine since he was in cruise mode in Shanghai -- so this is more of a quality issue specific to this engine alone), I'm sure the Blue-boys will be as mute as a sheep whether there is still a typhoon or not.
    Well, that's why I didn't like it that Schumi's engine blew. Alonso still had a big chance of winning even if it didn't.

    Reasons?
    Schumi's tires were a big question mark. His pace was not far off Alonso's, but he was obviously slowing down on some laps to conserve tires.

    Alonso was roaring. He overtook his way into third place, even before the pitstops. He managed to hurdle Massa, and had a lot of laps left to catch Schumi.

    Overtaking may be hard on Suzuka, but Alonso showed it could be done...

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    Jeff is reacting to the red-boys' assertion that the Suzuka GP was pure luck for Alonso... hmmm... starting from third row, setting the fastest lap of the race, overtaking his way into second before Michael's engine blew... yup, that was all pure luck...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #52
    That's a good one...

    Also I may add, Alonso doesnt have to go faster than Ferrari to win.
    All he had to do was wait for Schumacher's tire to wear down.

    To analyse, in qualifying Schumacher/Massa was doing 1.3 seconds
    faster than anyone at the grid and yet by the time his engine blew Alonso
    was a mere 5 seconds off pace from Schumacher.

    Now 5 seconds may be a big lead but you have to remember Alonso had
    a 25 second lead on Schumacher at the Chinese GP and yet Schumi was
    able to still win it.

    If I had been able to watch the first part of the Chinese GP (bwisit Milenyo yan!!)
    when Alonso was 25 seconds leading and you said to me that Schumi still won,
    I would have laughed at your face.

    So beating a 5 second lead is very doable.

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    #53
    Jeff is reacting to the red-boys' assertion that the Suzuka GP was pure luck for Alonso... hmmm... starting from third row, setting the fastest lap of the race, overtaking his way into second before Michael's engine blew... yup, that was all pure luck...
    In fact Alonso was starting fifth from the grid since Ralf and Trulli outqualified
    him, Remember?

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    #54
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Alonso was roaring. He overtook his way into third place, even before the pitstops.
    Alonso only had Toyota's between him and the Ferraris. If there's somebody who I will agree that was "roaring" in the race, it was the Iceman. From 11th to 5th. That's a more authentic roaring to me.


    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    He managed to hurdle Massa, and had a lot of laps left to catch Schumi.
    Massa had a tire puncture at that time. Puncture, and not threading.


    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Overtaking may be hard on Suzuka, but Alonso showed it could be done...
    Yes, we all remember Raikkonen's ruthless overtaking over Renault's Fisichella in the final laps in last year's Suzuka GP.


    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Jeff is reacting to the red-boys' assertion that the Suzuka GP was pure luck for Alonso...
    Alonso's "win" was pure luck. It's not the Suzuka GP driving that he did. Even Alonso himself said that he was lucky to escape with a win in Suzuka.

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    #55
    Quote Originally Posted by jeff1101 View Post
    To analyse, in qualifying Schumacher/Massa was doing 1.3 seconds
    faster than anyone at the grid and yet by the time his engine blew Alonso
    was a mere 5 seconds off pace from Schumacher.

    Now 5 seconds may be a big lead but you have to remember Alonso had
    a 25 second lead on Schumacher at the Chinese GP and yet Schumi was
    able to still win it.

    If I had been able to watch the first part of the Chinese GP (bwisit Milenyo yan!!)
    when Alonso was 25 seconds leading and you said to me that Schumi still won,
    I would have laughed at your face.

    So beating a 5 second lead is very doable.
    You are just interpolating "what might have been". The same way that some other dude posted in the Shanghai GP thread that Alonso was rocketing like hell as compared to Schumacher who was actually in cruise mode.

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    #56
    Quote Originally Posted by BoyFerrari View Post
    Haha, Alonso winning the Suzuka GP out of pure luck
    opps! + superb driving and amazing pitstop strategy of renault. see how FA overtook ralf shumacher then passing massa after the first pitsop.

    what if not bec. of team orders massa didnt let schumi to pass during the 3rd lap ano kaya ending?

    maybe still blown engine of schumi and massa winning the race.

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    #57
    Alonso's "win" was pure luck. It's not the Suzuka GP driving that he did. Even Alonso himself said that he was lucky to escape with a win in Suzuka.
    Schumacher's win in the Chinese GP is pure luck. He was lucky Alonso
    chose to switch only his front tires to intermediates. And no he doesnt
    have to say that...

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    #58
    Quote Originally Posted by jeff1101 View Post
    Schumacher's win in the Chinese GP is pure luck. He was lucky Alonso
    chose to switch only his front tires to intermediates. And no he doesnt
    have to say that...
    No, that was not pure luck. It was Renault's wrong decision on the tyres. Oh yes, Alonso had plenty to say about that "wrong decision" in his melodrama "I am Lonely" episode to the media.

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    #59
    Quote Originally Posted by BoyFerrari View Post
    No, that was not pure luck. It was Renault's wrong decision on the tyres. Oh yes, Alonso had plenty to say about that "wrong decision" in his melodrama "I am Lonely" episode to the media.
    C'mon man Give it up. Even I know when I'm licked. You're only
    digging your own grave here. And you're beginning to sound funnier and
    funnier. I liked you better when your arguments were making sense...

    Just wait maybe after the Brazilian GP, when Schumacher wins the driver's
    championship you can go back to your winning ways. (in lala land)

    Arguing with BoyFerrari is like arguing to a brick wall... A red Brick wall...
    painted with the emblems of "Scuderia Ferrari"...

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    #60
    minalas lang si Schumi............
    sana may team orders na i-ram ni Massa si Alonso para DNF sya sa next race

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