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    #71
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Hmmm... conspiracy theory... did military commanders send men on a deep penetration mission unprepared precisely to garner this type of public outcry?
    Nah. Not conspiracy but idiocy.

    When the Basilan blunder occurred on Oct. 18, the SOTF was only in actual operation for 10 months; its troops were previously based in Fort Magsaysay, Nueva Ecija, a terrain completely different from Basilanís.
    In fact, Lt. Col. Leo Pena, the commander of the battalion that led the fatal attack, was assigned in Basilan only last July, or three months ago.
    As commander of the 4th Special Forces battalion, Pena plotted the attack at Al-Barka, deploying students armed merely with M-16s and M-14s and failing to coordinate his attack with other units that would have backed them up, according to an ongoing investigation on the incident.
    For more info Basilan: Failure of the ‘elite command’ structure | Newsbreak | Independent Journalism

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    #72
    Quote Originally Posted by andywesteast View Post
    BEST SOLDIERS:

    Israelis, Nepalese Gurkhas, Americans

    WORST SOLDIERS:

    Arabs, (Iraqis, Egyptians etc.) Sub-Saharan Africans, Filipinos.
    I don't even remember Pinoy soldiers winning any war. Kahit mga Bandido tinatalo sila, mga PMA graduates pa naman

    The Malaysians finished off their insurgency in 3 years, allowing the country to prosper.

    Ang Pinoy 40+ years hindi pa tapos, wasting Trillions of taxpayer's money.

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    #73
    ^ malabong manalo.

    M-16 pa rin gamit ng sundalo natin.
    mas maganda mga gamit ng kalaban.....

    ang pamatay....OV Bronco.

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    #74
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Bull.
    Egyptian and Iraqi army, though?
    Only an Egyptian division was able to route the Jews once.

    And they had an excellent commander during the battle for the Suez Canal.

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    #75
    Yeah, but their Air Force compared to Israel's was a complete mismatch. Superior Israeli pilots and tactics won the six day war in the first three days. They even had procedures for spoofing and taking out SAMs that required lots of guts and skill on the part of the pilots.

    Then again, you hear about the joke where an Egyptian battalion went out to capture an Israeli scout and only one man returned? It was an ambush. There were two of them.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #76
    Philippine military Leadership palpak oo, pero I can't say sa soldiers din, our guys are fighting with obsolete weapons and short in ammo. Its unfair to judge them. Bigyan mo ng parehong suweldo, benepisyo if any at gamit ang US army ng tulad satin, baka mabilis pa sa alas kuwatro may mutiny na.

    Sa Vietnamn nga yung latter part na ng gera nauso dun yung mga officers nila mas maraming butas sa likod kesa sa harap pag tapos ng engkuwentro, yung mga sundalo daw ayaw na ng gera gusto na umuwi so pag may utos ang officers nila na operasyon sa asar nila sila mismo bumabaril sa opisyales nila..heheh

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    #77
    read it this morning na hinde daw isuko ng MILF yun isang tao which I think the one AFP is hunting...ano pa ba inaantay? pataying na lahat yan..

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    #78
    Quote Originally Posted by andywesteast View Post
    BEST SOLDIERS:

    Israelis, Nepalese Gurkhas, Americans

    WORST SOLDIERS:

    Arabs, (Iraqis, Egyptians etc.) Sub-Saharan Africans, Filipinos.
    hmmm... no mention of spetsnaz despite their long history?
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    #79
    Bakit laging may joke regarding French soldiers pag dating sa mga gera..supot din ata sila e.

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    #80
    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Bakit laging may joke regarding French soldiers pag dating sa mga gera..supot din ata sila e.
    If anything Americans are the most cowardly. Jusk ask McArthur.

    Germans/Japs = most superior.

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