What Will Be The Difference In Our Lives If We Dont Believe In God?

[robot.sonic]

He is one with the "Force" ... LOL!

Ganito ang concept ko ng God. Energy. Lahat ng nabubuhay ay created in his own image kasi lahat tayo ay may energy.

May the force be with you.

Sorry sa OT.

[uls]

i'm isolating this quote from above

what if ancient civilization did not disappear, where could we be now? what could we be now. these civilizations technology also vanished when then disappear. what would it be if egyptian, sumerian civilizations did not cease and just continued existence up to this day.

their ideas/inventions were adapted by civilizations that replaced them

like irrigation, papyrus, mummification, gods and goddesses (integrated by later religions), number system, written language, justice system...

[ess]

Yes. Although it does concern them a bit from time to time, they know I am a good and moral person, often much better than many of those who are openly professing to be devout Catholic, etc. hence they don't make it an issue.

I don't steal, I don't kill, and I don't womanize, but I don't go to church.
My wife has accepted my stand, and wala ding issue sa amin.
My only compromise is that I have to go to church to attend the Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve masses, and also the occasional wedding mass and funeral.
What really ticks me off is that my wife's circle of friends are all devout Christians. Whenever I attend a gimmick that includes them, they always single me out and try to "save" me. Nakakainis na tuloy sumama sa gimmick nila.

[ghosthunter]

well the book covers the current technology at hand. he's book is about the maturity of these technologies we now have onhand. its also funny he mentioned in the book that people 100years ago predicted that we will still be riding horse carriages in the next 100 years. but look at we now. it also makes me wonder, what if ancient civilization did not disappear, where could we be now? what could we be now. these civilizations technology also vanished when then disappear. what would it be if egyptian, sumerian civilizations did not cease and just continued existence up to this day.

Those premises has been used in many sci-fi novels in the past including what if the Nazi won WW2 and if the Romans still ruled the world today.

[uls]

believers seem unable to grasp the concept that ethics is separate from religious belief

[mahalay]

Why do you say that I am blind and in denial when I'm perfectly in search of the truth?

If you really are in search for the truth, you should always challenge what you know and what you believe in. That means you should also question your religious faith. But unfortunately, to question the Bible or any religious text for that matter is heresy/blasphemy/apostasy (alin ba tama?) kung religious faith ang pag-uusapan.

Can you prove that Jesus was a lie? A farce? Not the Son of God?

I assume that you're referring to a deity here, so para maging general ang usapin... It cannot be proven or disproved.

To be honest, I'm a serious searcher for truth, read lots about the Bible (since I'm a Christian) and related topics few years back. So far sa halip na maging solid ang aking pinaniniwalaan, mas lalo pang dumami ang tanong. There are a lot of things that I like about the Bible and in my opinion can make us a morally better person if followed correctly. Pero some things just do not add up.

So I decided to have the good things of both world.

Kung moral issue pag-uusapan, I would search the Bible kasunod ay Science. Pero kung tungkol sa katotohanan ng mundong aking ginagalawan, sa Science ako kasunod na ang Bible - pag may contradiction, ibahin ko version ko ng Bible ko. Although may steps na rin ang Science that addresses moral issues, I believe it's still in its infancy. Halos majority ng pinag-aaralan ng sciencya ay tungkol sa physical world.

[Ry_Tower]

I don't steal, I don't kill, and I don't womanize, but I don't go to church.
My wife has accepted my stand, and wala ding issue sa amin.
My only compromise is that I have to go to church to attend the Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve masses, and also the occasional wedding mass and funeral.
What really ticks me off is that my wife's circle of friends are all devout Christians. Whenever I attend a gimmick that includes them, they always single me out and try to "save" me. Nakakainis na tuloy sumama sa gimmick nila.

They'll get over it as long as you keep neutral and just smile. hehehe

[DigitalAnalog]

Simmple question lang sa mga anti gods, alam ba nag mga GF niyo o misis niyo yung prinsipyo niyo? nanay niyo man lang or tatay?

Yes, but your question is meaningless. Do you believe in Zeus? Lord Brahma? Krishna? Shiva? Odin? Thor? Allah? No? You must be ‘anti-God’ then because they are all considered Gods by their respective followers, the same way you think the Judeo-Christian God is the God. Does your family know how ‘anti-God’ you are?

You don’t believe in a thousand other Gods, I just don’t believe in a thousand and one.

[uls]

Originally Posted by Quint
Can you prove that Jesus was a lie? A farce? Not the Son of God?

during the time of Constantine, the first Christian Roman emperor, there were 2 popular priests -- Arius (who preached that Jesus is less than God) and Athanasius (who argued that Jesus is God in human form)

followers took sides and things became violent and there was bloodshed and burning of churches (that happens whenever people are passionate hehe) -- kinda like Sunnis and Shiites no?

that division is the origin of Orthodox and Roman Christianity

Athanasius became a pope and a saint (syempre hehe)

and Arius... well...

wiki:

Although virtually all positive writings on Arius' theology have been suppressed or destroyed,[2] negative writings describe Arius' theology as one in which there was a time before the Son of God, where only God the Father existed. Despite concerted opposition, 'Arian', or nontrinitarian Christian churches persisted throughout Europe and North Africa, in various Gothic and Germanic kingdoms, until suppressed by military conquest or voluntary royal conversion between the fifth and seventh centuries.

[DigitalAnalog]

Ganito ang concept ko ng God. Energy. Lahat ng nabubuhay ay created in his own image kasi lahat tayo ay may energy.

May the force be with you.

Sorry sa OT.

May point ka. Yan ang ‘Diyos’ nila Carl Sagan at Albert Einstein at possibly pati ni Stephen Hawking. The difference between the ‘Deist’ God and the Gods of Theistic religions is that this “God” is not given any characterizations. Hindi siya all-good, all-powerful o all-knowing.

Siya lang ang nag-flick ng switch at the beginning of the Universe (if there is one, ongoing pa rin kasi ang scientific debates on whether the Universe did have a beginning.) Wala siyang pakialam sa mga nangyayari. Wala siyang pakialam kung gumagamit ka ng artificial contraceptives o hindi. Wala siyang pakialam kung nagsimba ka kahapon o hindi.

Wala lang siyang pakialam, period. Hindi siya bumuntis ng isang virgin para ipanganak ang kanyang anak na magtatanggal ng Original Sin na siya din naman ang naglagay sa tao. Hindi rin siya nagsasalita sa pamamagitan ng isang Burning Bush. Hindi rin siya naguutos na patayin ang mga infidels tulad ng nangyari sa Inquisitions at sa ginagawa ngayon ng mga Islamic fundamentalists. Di ka rin niya susunugin for eternity dahil di ka naniwala sa mga propeta niya, lalo na sa mga modern prophets niya na nanggagahasa ng mga menor de edad.

Wala siyang pakialam kung sambahin mo siya, o paniwalaan mo siya o kung anu pa naman. Mas may sense, di ba? But ultimately that’s not what modern religions want you to believe.